Randyberlin
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- Sitka, Alaska
It said Gran Canaria. I wonder why?
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shimceltic
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No its caja rural seguros
Sounds good, the 75kg+ group can make a break for it then the 75kg- group can chase down on the gentle rise.
Tried to save something for the sprint but you'd stretched me out so much I'd nothing much left except maybe a few seconds in the last 100m. Haven't checked the data yet but I expect I was at or near max HR before the 'sprint'.
I think we'd worked quite well you turn pulling me up the bumps and me trying occasionally to put in a turn on the descents. I think you had to wait a bit at one stage for me though when I'd dropped right off your wheel on an incline.
shimceltic
Veteran
Andy, better time than Thursday or slacked off?
Wow, according to Strava it was quicker by 11seconds, must've been down to the tow, thanks @keithaitch!!
You can see from the 'Relative Effort' that I was slacking off though, except the end where Keith repeatedly bitch slapped me.
keithaitch
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- barcelona
It was a great session. I was tired after this morning's effort and then putting somebody in their place when I should have been warming up!
Interesting how our respective set ups work. Yours holds onto speed longer so you can drop me at the start of climbs, but as the climb goes then my advantage kicks in. On descents the opposite is true. I kicked in about 4kms out and got a gap to make you work and to see how strong you were, then eased up to recover and hopefully have something for the sprint. I tried, unsuccessfully, to drop you on the first climb in the last km. Then i knew from bitter experience of repeatedly losing to @AAAC, @Brusgaard and @bills that you get one go and you have to leave it as late as possible.
Thx Andy, next Saturday...bring it on!
At the start of climbs heavier people will carry any existing speed slightly longer likewise lighter people will be able to accelerate faster on a decent initially but will have a lower maximum speed relative to power than a heavier rider. It's really cool how Bkool respects this, I've no idea how accurate their algorithm is but it seems good enough to generate some good racing.
As you said I burned myself up getting back to you, my HR was at MaxHR (mid 170's) at 16.5km then we both 'recovered' which for me was mid 160's before the last km where I was just red-lining and threw in a big gear last ditch attempt, I'm actually impressed hitting 900w after all the abuse. Then I used up the whole 5mins cool-down to run through my 'don't die' process.
How hard do you get pushed in these rides, I always feel you can just ride away whenever you choose?
keithaitch
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- barcelona
Yes, I think whatever algorithm they are using is now pretty accurate. I just wish it would respond a little quicker when you put the hammer down rather than lag. It's dispiriting when you make an effort and it takes 5 seconds to respond.
Thx for the appreciation. I have a lot of kms in the tank, 19,500 so far this year, and so usually have something to call on at least on the length of rides we do, an hour plus session on brvr is another matter. But don't kid yourself, we are all just human. I did a hard session this morning and then warmed up too hard. if you'd got a gap this evening late in the ride I probably would have cracked. At one point is was thinking of he goes he's gone. If, 2kms or so from the end when we are close to the limit, you kick in at the end of a descent and use your set up advantage on a 1/2% climb you can power over followed by a decent you'll see me disappear into the rear view mirror. That said I can, if required, get up out of the saddle for 1.5 kms get a rhythm going and maintain 5w/kg. You are on the required to do it list😀.
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shimceltic
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I was taking it steady and had a minute to catch Jim after I pulled away from Mr Randy.
Probably took 15km to close the gap as I didn't want to push and when I did a bit extra so did Jim. Managed to get level near the end and take it but had to get the heart rate up! Will make the handicap interesting
Probably took 15km to close the gap as I didn't want to push and when I did a bit extra so did Jim. Managed to get level near the end and take it but had to get the heart rate up! Will make the handicap interesting
AAAC 76C
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I was going well today but at about 8km out I started feeling a bit of reflux coming on so I backed off. You both left me behind and @Brusgaard passed me as well but by then I was able to wind it up a bit again and then today became all about posting a time, good or bad.
Figured this had happened again, you were flying along then pulled up. Hope it gets better soon.
keithaitch
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- barcelona
Yes, i guessed there was something up when you didn't sit on when Andy and I caught up to you. Shame a three way sprint would have been fun. Hope you get it resolved soon. Take care.
berty bassett
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- I'boro
sounds like you all had fun sat , i didnt want to butt in so did a ride up huez
got a little question to ask , i set it up for ghosts all around the same time (48-55mins) thinking that would be about right
added the lapdogs as well and set off - the ghosts went off like rockets - all of them , i thought well they must blow up further up the road but they didnt , they all went across the line after about 25 mins ? is this normal - did i do something wrong that i cant remember ?
the lapdogs did what they do , one stayed just behind and one fell right back , just puzzled why everyone set around 25mins when their time was 50mins ish - if it helps , they all stayed together as a bunch even though they had about 7 mins difference when picked
thanks for any advice
got a little question to ask , i set it up for ghosts all around the same time (48-55mins) thinking that would be about right
added the lapdogs as well and set off - the ghosts went off like rockets - all of them , i thought well they must blow up further up the road but they didnt , they all went across the line after about 25 mins ? is this normal - did i do something wrong that i cant remember ?
the lapdogs did what they do , one stayed just behind and one fell right back , just puzzled why everyone set around 25mins when their time was 50mins ish - if it helps , they all stayed together as a bunch even though they had about 7 mins difference when picked
thanks for any advice
keithaitch
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- Location
- barcelona
The ghosts are often all over the place. I've almost stopped adding them. My own ghosts from previous attempts can be really misleading as they can be from before the recalibration so way faster which leads me to believe erroneously that I'm riding slowly because I'm five minutes behind myself.
Yesterday I wrote with among others AndyMacca ghost from the Thursday session. I beat the ghost by 45 seconds but only bettered Andy's time by 13 seconds. There are times you beat the ghost but are in fact slower. The ghosts don't give drafting so really, i don't see the point any more. Either get them working properly or remove them.
What i do find pretty accurate now is the calculation of the time remaining and i use this as a motivator, trying to beat it.
Hope this helps.
