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AAAC 76C

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LIVING THE DREAM
Thx for the pace setting, a ghost is always welcome, especially to sit with, and hopefully get back on to the group if you get dropped. When are you doing wc3, I'm currently top 20, though that will go down as more of the previous leaders complete stage 3.I'm just desperately trying to be on the first page with you, for moral support
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Back on the front page with you 'bro'.
 

Brusgaard

Über Guru
Location
Skive, Denmark
We need some help (votes) please, on zwift forum about BLE support for bkool trainers on zwift.. They just need to add it ..it is already there!
Then we could use bkool trainers on apple tv :notworthy: https://forums.zwift.com/t/add-bkool-ble-protocol-asap-please/13809
Thanks

Bkool is a competitor to Zwift, and I don’t think they speak. Bkool BLE only works with Bkool Simulator and not any of the other simulators AFAIK. I don’t think Zwift specifically supports Bkool trainers, but via ANT+ FE-C they support any brand, as it is a “standard” for controlling fitness equipment. Other trainer brands also use proprietary implementations of BLE, but are of course willing to share it with Zwift as to sell more hardware. Bkool wants to keep you on their simulator, as this of course gives them a steady cash-flow through subscriptions. Therefore, there is little incentive for them to open it up for Zwift.

The new Bluetooth FTMS should make Bluetooth work across brands, like ANT+ FE-C. This however requires a firmware update of the trainers, and I don’t think the old Pro and Classic will receive new updates.

As far as I know, only the Elite Direto (and perhaps Drivo 2) already supports Bluetooth FTMS.

I don’t get it, why people is so keen on running Zwift on an Apple TV with it’s many limitations, where you can’t use your ANT+ equipment, lower graphics quality etc. You’ll probably end up having to buy new stuff to make all your older stuff work. For the price of that and the ATV 4K, you could buy a pretty nice second hand PC, which is a much more versatile device.

Why not get Apple to support ANT+ FE-C instead? I’m pretty sure the communications chipsets inside the iPads/ATVs are capable, unless they are made by Apple. But if Apple has to pay a license fee to use ANT, it is probably never going to happen, as they focus MOST on maximizing profit!
 
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@Brusgaard Are you starting the rerun today?
@Bored Man and @shimceltic are the Jimmies in? Screenshot_2018-12-22-05-52-35.png
 

Zidi

Active Member
Location
Slovenia
Bkool is a competitor to Zwift, and I don’t think they speak. Bkool BLE only works with Bkool Simulator and not any of the other simulators AFAIK. I don’t think Zwift specifically supports Bkool trainers, but via ANT+ FE-C they support any brand, as it is a “standard” for controlling fitness equipment. Other trainer brands also use proprietary implementations of BLE, but are of course willing to share it with Zwift as to sell more hardware. Bkool wants to keep you on their simulator, as this of course gives them a steady cash-flow through subscriptions. Therefore, there is little incentive for them to open it up for Zwift.

The new Bluetooth FTMS should make Bluetooth work across brands, like ANT+ FE-C. This however requires a firmware update of the trainers, and I don’t think the old Pro and Classic will receive new updates.

As far as I know, only the Elite Direto (and perhaps Drivo 2) already supports Bluetooth FTMS.

I don’t get it, why people is so keen on running Zwift on an Apple TV with it’s many limitations, where you can’t use your ANT+ equipment, lower graphics quality etc. You’ll probably end up having to buy new stuff to make all your older stuff work. For the price of that and the ATV 4K, you could buy a pretty nice second hand PC, which is a much more versatile device.

Why not get Apple to support ANT+ FE-C instead? I’m pretty sure the communications chipsets inside the iPads/ATVs are capable, unless they are made by Apple. But if Apple has to pay a license fee to use ANT, it is probably never going to happen, as they focus MOST on maximizing profit!

I understand your point, but...
Bkool have opened up their protocol to zwift over 12 months now so there is on zwift side to make it work. It is just there are not enough people nagging about it. :hyper:
First i was looking at (android) Nvidia shield, but for now it is no working...
I dont want another pc or a laptop in my house and im sure i cant get anything good for under 200$
I was just hoping for small system to hook it on tv and have smart tv at the same time...
 

shimceltic

Veteran
Whoever starts make sure it's a league race!
 
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