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[bridgy]

OK, just done an experiment on SC stage 9 - well the start of it anyway.

Started riding normally, then used remote to cut power to the trainer at 1 mile, 2 miles , 3 miles etc. When the power is turned off, the speed, power etc stay the same for a period of time (30 seconds-ish?), before starting to drop to zero, so you only get short bursts of advantage. I switched the power back on once the speed started to drop.

It would therefore be very "convenient" if you had a power fault with your trainer that only cut off power for short periods that were within this window before your speed started to drop.....

Here's what it looks like:

 

[berty bassett]

that does look similar
it would be horrible if it only happened when you were doing speed !

 

[Whorty]

that does look similar
it would be horrible if it only happened when you were doing speed !

Oh, you cynic

 

[theboxers]

that does look similar
it would be horrible if it only happened when you were doing speed !

Especially when doing 70kmh or so

 

[Daddy Pig]

Well Pep is a machine so maybe he's got a wire loose?

 

[Brusgaard]

It would therefore be very "convenient" if you had a power fault with your trainer that only cut off power for short periods that were within this window before your speed started to drop.....

Here's what it looks like:

View attachment 371097

Not sure I understand you, but are you telling us, that this powerswitching can be used for cheating? Then I'll repeat my guess, that Pep has a custom Bkool (being one of the original developers(?)). Sad if he uses that one for the SC and other races...

 

[berty bassett]

personally i think the likes of pep , aaac bridgy any many more are bloody fantastic bikers and that no-one can deny
i also think that the bkool machines are not up to racing against each other
fantastic for getting you fit and racing yourself but i dont think they are all exactly the same
how ever - i still think they have little pixies running the machinery in side so my thoughts should be taken with a pinch of salt
i wouldnt accuse anyone of purposely cheating because i dont know enough about how they work
it doesnt matter to me as i have had my hissy fit with bkool and don't play anymore

 

[BILL S]

I'm not around for tomorrows usual re-run or next week so please someone else start Chaingang rides. Thanks.

 

[AAAC 76C]

OK, just done an experiment on SC stage 9 - well the start of it anyway.

Started riding normally, then used remote to cut power to the trainer at 1 mile, 2 miles , 3 miles etc. When the power is turned off, the speed, power etc stay the same for a period of time (30 seconds-ish?), before starting to drop to zero, so you only get short bursts of advantage. I switched the power back on once the speed started to drop.

It would therefore be very "convenient" if you had a power fault with your trainer that only cut off power for short periods that were within this window before your speed started to drop.....

Here's what it looks like:

View attachment 371097

I have done a similar experiment before, by accident in one case in the velodrome.
My power cable was not fully engaged and we were on some kind of team effort and I was a lap behind so I waited for Bill and some others to give them a tow as they were close to leading and I though I could use my last effort to bridge them over.
I put in a big effort to accelerate to their speed and that must have pulled the cable and I ended up shooting around the drome at over 65 kph and caught everyone up and I think I won as well. (just remembered it was a BKool televised event)

More to the point I have done the remote electrical power off before and at one time it would go for about two minutes at constant speed and power.
This was an early fix because before it would drop out almost immediately and terminate your session.
I didn't think it lasted as long as 30 seconds now but i take Bridgy's owrd as he has proven it does.
Also you cannot maintain an exact power in erg, especially on a non track course, and your speed will vary with the conditions even if your power is almost flat.

Lastly Pep's graphs have be doing this for a while,even in the last Summer Cup so I don't think it is anything to do with a beta model more a faulty trainer or dare I say it 'electro doping'.
I've said it before it's a shame because I know I would notice this sort of power behaviour whilst I was riding so it is hard to understand why someone as good as Pep would want to save session that looked like that.
Perhaps it is just a protest against the Elites.

I do need to behave though as I deliberately used my Classic Hybrid in a previous summer cup because there were a load of real dodgy rides on the leader board so I though sod you, take some of this but still didn't win. Blimmin knackered myself trying though.
Those were the days when I could spin up to a good speed and bump my BPM up to more than 160 in less than a minute (yes as high as that) and hold it for the whole session.

 

[Whorty]

Those were the days when I could spin up to a good speed and bump my BPM up to more than 160 in less than a minute (yes as high as that) and hold it for the whole session.

160!!! That's nothing. @BILL S made me ride at over 170 yesterday just to hold his wheel I was bloomin banjaxed

 

[AAAC 76C]

I must admit that I'm not used to being over an hour behind at this stage in a BKool Cup
Bridgy is only 10 minutes behind me and I'm 15 behind Pep which ain't bad either and courtesy of Jacobs monster effort yesterday and my relatively meagre one. I must admit that I am feeling better for it though, perhaps I blasted something out of me.
I would like to try and assist Jacob in the mountains to help him stay in touch with Pep but we always ride at different times and I guess we wouldn't catch up either.
I could help you (@bridgy ) bridge over to below me in the next two mountain stages though.
What do you think?

 

[AAAC 76C]

160!!! That's nothing. @BILL S made me ride at over 170 yesterday just to hold his wheel I was bloomin banjaxed

If I do that the only thing I'd be holding is my heart!

 

[lmulli]

Does anyone actually use BKOOL then only whenever I've been on it and gone to any of the live routes, there's only one or two others there maximum, which is quite boring in fairness. Also use ZWIFT and there are boat loads of people in their live events or just generally using it. Its like day and night.

 

[Whorty]

If I do that the only thing I'd be holding is my heart!

I averaged 167, maxing out at 174. Every time I slowed down to rest, @BILL S came back for me, kicked me up the butt, and made me ride on I must get myself some electronic doping for the next stage

 

[AAAC 76C]

I averaged 167, maxing out at 174. Every time I slowed down to rest, @BILL S came back for me, kicked me up the butt, and made me ride on I must get myself some electronic doping for the next stage

1000 Watt elctro doping for £12
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