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Soarerv8

Über Member
Well that was an interesting play around on Zwift. Today was the London loop apparently so as soon as I launched the simulator I found myself at the side of the road in some central London street with loads of other cyclists around. I then set off pedalling and my guy just stayed where he was. Then ever so slowly (like a Kickr at the start of a race) he started moving forward and slowly built up momentum even though I was pedalling like the start of a changing race. Built up some speed and seemed to be passing everyone with about 250w, built up to 350 or so and kept going for 10 or 15 minutes by which time I got a bit bored. No one seemed to be racing so I stopped. Went to settings and got some gear like a helmet and socks and a slightly different coloured frame. I wanted the deep carbon fibre rims but I was locked out of that choice. Anyway, went back into the London loop and changing my gear out hadn't made it any more interesting so I then wondered what to do and thinking at this rate I wouldn't even get round to doing my 50km free allowance. Then I noticed a board that listed some races about to start so I joined the first one which started in 10 mins. I waited for that to start and was on the start line and wondered whether I could be pedalling when it started or would I have to be not pedalling so to be safe I chose the latter. Everyone sped off leaving me on the line in last place and I slowly built up speed (like a kickr) and started picking them off. Soon got past the midfield and then passed a group which was apparently the leading group and my name went to the top of the listing. Looking down I was making about 500w and then a banner came up telling me I had made over 500w for 10 seconds so I think I got some points or something. I decided not to bother sitting with the lead group and trying to draft them and thought I'd just try to build up a lead over them. I tried 600w then 700w (these are easier than bkool watts BTW) I thought I must be building up a lead but it is very hard to tell where you are in relation to others (unlike in bkool where it's easy to see), but one of the leaders had decided to catch me up and draft me so whenever I took a slight break and dropped my watts by a bit, this guy would come up behind me and be drafting me. We then got to the end of a lap which was labeled as a warmup lap and there was one race lap left to complete the race. So with this guy on my tail I upped the watts further to 700 then 800 and was surprised how long I could hold this power. This dropped the guy behind me. Meanwhile there are still riders everywhere that I'm passing pretty quick as everyone is lumped in together. Then my name fell down the leaderboard to 3rd place and the guy who was drafting me and another had passed me and I couldn't even see where they were. I booted it up a bit more and saw 1000w and got in front again and I could see the race was near the end so I just nailed it to the line and a bar came up saying I got 1st place. ^_^

So conclusions:
1. Zwift seems much more complicated than bkool.
2.There seems to be only one place to ride each day (todays was London).
3. Most people just seem to be out there riding, and there are thousands of them.
4. Zwift gives you a lot of gold stars.
5. The graphics are better.
6. You won't get to know the other riders (I don't think).
7. Zwift riders are not as hard as bkool riders. :tongue:
8. I would not give up bkool for Zwift.
9. I may end up with a monthly Zwift subscription but not sure yet.
Similar experience at the start Bill with ultra slow acceleration (not just my usual level of very slow acceleration) it feels a bit like it is taking a reading every 4 or 5 seconds rather than constantly which makes drafting almost impossible as I can't make small changes to speed. Seems to be a known problem but without a solution. I have tried placing the whole kit and caboodle into a digital Bluetooth free quarantine but to no avail.

Really like Zwift but still happy to keep both it and Bkool.
 

Soarerv8

Über Member
..or a change of breakfast cereal? I heartily recommend bran flakes 5 times a week . I am regular as clockwork with but not so without. I have very low blood pressure and a tendency to pass out in the mornings is sat too long on the crapper so bran flakes have become a necessary part of my routine! That and homemade brown or rye bread.

Edit: my apologies for that image seated into your retinas!
Bob should you ever need this service I think between us we could now write quite a compelling Tinder profile for you.

"Hi, my name is @bobinski and I like nothing better than to dress in tight fitting Lycra and head up into my loft to sweat for a couple of hours.
I do have a gammy knee and low blood pressure and have been known to pass out whilst taking a dump but on the plus side thanks to bran I am now (largely) the master of my own bowels.
So if you fancy meeting me for a bit of sweaty Zwifting splitter action you know which way you need to swipe.
P.s. did I mention my knee? (TM)"
 

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
Similar experience at the start Bill with ultra slow acceleration (not just my usual level of very slow acceleration) it feels a bit like it is taking a reading every 4 or 5 seconds rather than constantly which makes drafting almost impossible as I can't make small changes to speed. Seems to be a known problem but without a solution. I have tried placing the whole kit and caboodle into a digital Bluetooth free quarantine but to no avail.

Really like Zwift but still happy to keep both it and Bkool.

Soarer, you need an upgrade with a power meter added to your bike, I think then Zwift will behave perfectly with a Bkool Pro by making the Bkool just a resistance unit. Or get a Neo, better still a Kickr V2:tongue:
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
Bob should you ever need this service I think between us we could now write quite a compelling Tinder profile for you.

"Hi, my name is @bobinski and I like nothing better than to dress in tight fitting Lycra and head up into my loft to sweat for a couple of hours.
I do have a gammy knee and low blood pressure and have been known to pass out whilst taking a dump but on the plus side thanks to bran I am now (largely) the master of my own bowels.
So if you fancy meeting me for a bit of sweaty Zwifting splitter action you know which way you need to swipe.
P.s. did I mention my knee? (TM)"

Sir, that is Slander and I challenge you to a duel!

(I am a bit concerned you have enjoyed thinking that up a little too much!)
 

Daddy Pig

Veteran
Bob should you ever need this service I think between us we could now write quite a compelling Tinder profile for you.

"Hi, my name is @bobinski and I like nothing better than to dress in tight fitting Lycra and head up into my loft to sweat for a couple of hours.
I do have a gammy knee and low blood pressure and have been known to pass out whilst taking a dump but on the plus side thanks to bran I am now (largely) the master of my own bowels.
So if you fancy meeting me for a bit of sweaty Zwifting splitter action you know which way you need to swipe.
P.s. did I mention my knee? (TM)"
Is this supposed to be a profile for tinder or grindr?
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
Similar experience at the start Bill with ultra slow acceleration (not just my usual level of very slow acceleration) it feels a bit like it is taking a reading every 4 or 5 seconds rather than constantly which makes drafting almost impossible as I can't make small changes to speed. Seems to be a known problem but without a solution. I have tried placing the whole kit and caboodle into a digital Bluetooth free quarantine but to no avail.

Really like Zwift but still happy to keep both it and Bkool.

Did you reboot after the detox and go through the same process? Pc, phone, any BT speakers? When using zwift on pc I could not have any BT device on in my loft and BT had to be turned off though settings on the pc, phone, tablet.
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
At this stage we don't even know if it's even worth carrying on with WC stages as for all we know they'll never manage to get it updated! As time goes on and more and more stages are done and earlier ones repeated, the task of updating it will be getting bigger and bigger

Paul,
They will get there just at bkool pace. Or rather NEO pace in bsim.
 

berty bassett

Legendary Member
Location
I'boro
So I have just got a power tap back wheel Will it make any difference in zwift on a bkool pro and will it make any difference in bkool ?
Got it mainly to go out THERE in really world but if it helps zwift it might be stuck on turbo
Still think zwift is generous by not making hills as hard as bkool
 

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
So I have just got a power tap back wheel Will it make any difference in zwift on a bkool pro and will it make any difference in bkool ?
Got it mainly to go out THERE in really world but if it helps zwift it might be stuck on turbo
Still think zwift is generous by not making hills as hard as bkool

Yes it should work more realistically in Zwift, real power figures which Zwift will calculate resistance on the Bkool pro unit.
AFAIK it wont work on Bkool because Bkool doesn't allow two sources of power reading(albeit one is mathematically calculated). I believe LBHifi has found this out . It used to work on earlier version of Bsim, but its now removed. Also if you were able to get it to work you would record slower speeds than a Bkool unit(no good for racing others) On the other hand you would get proper, reliable power figures which you could translate to road monitoring.

A fella in Tenerife had a power meter on his bike and rode solely to power whilst climbing, he would get dropped early on climbs but would invariably be leading near the top. He also had a Neo at home which he trained with and used those figures to guide his climbing power.
 

Soarerv8

Über Member
Did you reboot after the detox and go through the same process? Pc, phone, any BT speakers? When using zwift on pc I could not have any BT device on in my loft and BT had to be turned off though settings on the pc, phone, tablet.
Hmm no didn't go that far will try that.
 
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