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Bored Man

Upstanding Member
Location
Arrochar
I know, know, know, know know.
There is just no limit:
I'm playing on the road, I've got no fear
I'm from the South let that be on record here
There never will be no mountain too high
And I'll reach the top and get a job with Sky

:wacko: There you go again.... :music:
 

BILL S

Guru
Location
London
Bill looking at the frame tech spec for this frame the angular geometry is the same for both the medium and the large frame.
So with particular respect to the seat tube so long as you have your seat height set correctly your hip to knee to pedal triangle will be the same on both a M & L.
The chain stays are the same length on both as well but the M wheel base is 978 mm and the L 995.
So if the same fork is used and the same head angle (the former I assume is and the latter is so as stated in the tech spec) then your large frame is 17 mm longer than a medium (about .7 inch).
Your seat pin set back looks to be about 15mm so switching it around moves the saddle centre 30 mm forwards.
However because you have an L I would have imagined your stack is higher that you would have set it on an M which would make up for the most of the 17 mm.
I'm not saying that you don't need to reverse your saddle pin but theoretically your tendency to move forward is more likely to be down to your handle bar each, i.e. the stem length and not the seat pin.
However if you have your front wheel raise this will move you saddle back from the bottom bracket centre line as measured on the horizontal.
Or perhaps you have a low thigh to calf length ratio.
I would have expected a Scot to have long thighs though so he can have deep pockets!

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Mine is a Medium AAAC. I think the frame name caused the confusion. (SL) You get the SL and the SLX. All I know about the geometry of my bike is that it is bloody dangerous. Something about the rake or trail being too low so steering is fast but lethal.
I get what you're saying about the stem and realise that a shorter stem may be a better fix. It's just occurred to me that cleat positioning could also have an effect on the required saddle position, and I do have my cleats quite far back. Front wheel is raised a bit and as you say this will have effectively pushed the saddle back.
Looking forward to trying my new setup tomorrow.
 

AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
Mine is a Medium AAAC. I think the frame name caused the confusion. (SL) You get the SL and the SLX. All I know about the geometry of my bike is that it is bloody dangerous. Something about the rake or trail being too low so steering is fast but lethal.
I get what you're saying about the stem and realise that a shorter stem may be a better fix. It's just occurred to me that cleat positioning could also have an effect on the required saddle position, and I do have my cleats quite far back. Front wheel is raised a bit and as you say this will have effectively pushed the saddle back.
Looking forward to trying my new setup tomorrow.

Anything that effects the distance from the pedal axle centre to your knee joint will effect your saddle position all be it that the cleat setting does not do this per say as ankle flex could compensate.
I have read a few articles that say that a set back cleat position can improve power but everything I have read always says don't set them so that the pedal spindle is in front of the centre of the ball of your foot.
I am a traditionalist and always go for the centre of the ball which in this case is, for me, the most comfortable.
Going for the centre of other balls can be really painful though.
 

AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
"While the Ultimate CF SL shares the same geometry and tube profiles as RoadCyclingUK’s 2013 Bike of the Year – the Ultimate CF SLX – the frame is, in fact, a new addition to Canyon’s range for model year 2014, first unveiled at Eurobike last September."
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Perky77

Senior Member
Location
Hertfordshire
OK, who's up for a Handicap Team Time Trial tomorrow (Tuesday) 7pm (UTC)?

I thought we could run Pico again, as it was great for drafting in previous TTT's.

Probably best to start with just three teams, unless we can be sure to get 16+ riders.

Should open up some interesting tactics, and we can adjust the teams depending on who is riding.

Teams something like... please let me know if you can ride so I can adjust and calculate the fairest handicaps.

GaileB
Soarerv8
TheBoxers
JLaw - at work
Marino
Jim Brown
Whorty
Goldwolfie

Steve (srs52)
bert1971

Ste Corny
bazzer99
BenH
Rob

Rod
Insomina

Tom Hopwood
Martyn Perkins
Gregory
Stuart Ward (N. Tort.)
Monte
Breedon
Berty Bassett
Randy Berlin
John18
Bobinski
Runar (Norseman)
Adski

TurboTommy
CXRAndy - No trainer
Bill S
Daddy Pig

LBHIFI
AAAC 76C Pro-minator
Bridgy

Gents, as much as I would love to do this, I won't be able to make 7pm due to getting the back from work and getting the kiddywinks into bed
 
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