Taking over the bike shop...

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"I've got something for you in the car" said the boss. "It's a 500 € wheel"
I thought he was pulling my chain, but no:

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"Seriously?" I asked "Someone donated this?"

"It's worse than that: we found this in the skip: the client taking bikes apart had scrapped it..."

That aside, who will open the bidding?
 
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classic33

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"I've got something for you in the car" said the boss. "It's a 500 € wheel"
I thought he was pulling my chain, but no:

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"Seriously?" I asked "Someone donated this?"

"It's worse than that: we found this in the skip: the client taking bikes apart had scrapped it..."

That aside, who will open the bidding?
How much is postage?

If I don't require the whole wheel, just the hub, will it be cheaper?
 

classic33

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As it happens we have a whole "upcycling" department which does lovely things with old furniture. I've also got a couple of ideas for smaller scale projects using bike parts as soon as I work out how to remove cottared cranks without a crank removal tool.
Block of wood with either a "V" cut into it or a hole drilled into it. Place under the crank, and with the nut still in place on the pin, give it a few firm taps with a hammer.

Note which way the pins are in beforehand.
 

Dogtrousers

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I tried a similar method using a dud socket instead of a block of wood: I ended up using a vice because the hammer just broke the pin. Unfortunately I can't get the pin through the crank using this method.
 
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"I've got something for you in the car"
Andy, is there anything to be said for maybe contacting Rohloff, explaining what you do (and where and with whom) and seeking a bit of assistance?
I don't mean to infer that you need assistance but (my understanding is that) you'll either sell it as it is or need a specific frame to fit it on a bike? Even if just sold "as is" a Rohloff serviced hub would be more valuable, no?

With the right approach it could be a great bit of publicity and a good contact for you going forward.

It's also a sign that you might need to write up a list of brand names to be checked with you before binning! ^_^
 
Andy, is there anything to be said for maybe contacting Rohloff, explaining what you do (and where and with whom) and seeking a bit of assistance?
I don't mean to infer that you need assistance but (my understanding is that) you'll either sell it as it is or need a specific frame to fit it on a bike? Even if just sold "as is" a Rohloff serviced hub would be more valuable, no?

With the right approach it could be a great bit of publicity and a good contact for you going forward.

It's also a sign that you might need to write up a list of brand names to be checked with you before binning! ^_^

"Make a sheet of good brand name logos" is on my To Do list: I can't just make a list as I'm not sure my client can read.

I'll certainly have a look at the hub when I have time and if it looks like there's a chance of getting it working I'll probably contact Rohloff. Heck, I may buy it myself...
 

classic33

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"Make a sheet of good brand name logos" is on my To Do list: I can't just make a list as I'm not sure my client can read.

I'll certainly have a look at the hub when I have time and if it looks like there's a chance of getting it working I'll probably contact Rohloff. Heck, I may buy it myself...
'Ere, I enqured first!
 

classic33

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I tried a similar method using a dud socket instead of a block of wood: I ended up using a vice because the hammer just broke the pin. Unfortunately I can't get the pin through the crank using this method.
Centre punch or piece of steel and tap it through.
That fails, 8mm(you're metric) drill bit and drill*, then drill it out.

*Almost essential this part, as you'd hurt your hand trying to turn the bit by hand.
 
One big event this week was that my client left the team. This had been coming for a long time due to their behaviour which in turn is obviously connected to their psychological issues. For this reason we'd tried to give them as many chances as possible and offered support in different areas but they were not responding.

After I discussed it with my colleagues, social workers and the shop manager we agreed the client needed to move to another team, partly for my work but also to show them their behaviour would have consequences. I informed the client the next day on their arrival at work.

They were not happy.

Now I 'only' have a work experience student who has been reliably and industriously dismantling bikes for nearly a month. This student also has some issues but they are doing better than was originally expected and developing personally. They are also frankly being very helpful doing jobs I have no time to do.

It is also fair to say I'm finding it easier to invest in them now I don't have to deal with the behaviour issues of the other client.

In the meantime I sent the shop manager and the company boss a report of the current issues and how I think we can deal with them and we'll be discussing them as soon as the head of accounts has recovered from the Evil Bug.
 
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As it happens we have a whole "upcycling" department which does lovely things with old furniture. I've also got a couple of ideas for smaller scale projects using bike parts as soon as I work out how to remove cottared cranks without a crank removal tool.

At the cafe where I teach knitting, there's a child's bike, complete with stabilisers, totally covered in knitting and crochet. Even to the brake cables. It's a 100% yarnbombed bike! Apparently it is a much loved 'photo prop' on summer weekends and in the school hols, when grandmas tend to bring the little ones to play and crafting sessions in the public gardens at the back, and then pop into the cafe for a reviving brew and fizzy pop for the littlies. I'm sure there's a department at your HQ which has folk doing knitting and crochet, and if it's for yarn-bombing it just needs to be - mainly - simple strips and panels, which can be made by even the least-skilled knitters and crocheters. The initial plan and the final assembly would need to be done by a capable person of course - but this little bike is a really fun thing and has proven very popular. So if you get a really non-functional little kid's bike, that's what I'd recommend for it!
 
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Now I 'only' have a work experience student
Just curious....
Do you (or management) actively recruit clients or is there an "assembly line" (apologies for crudity) of clients sent to you?

What skills/experience do they have, are there any requirements for such from your end or the management?

Are there any rules/prohibitions on acquiring "outside" volunteers? (I'm assuming your son is an exception?)

I'm just curious if there's an obvious way to improve productivity of the whole process with the appointment of the "right people". (Again apologies for the crudity).

Enthusiastic, experienced volunteers could help you a lot, not just in terms of labour and experience but in freeing up your time to work more closely with the clients.
Judging by the replies to this thread there are quite a few people who would be interested in such a proposition.
 
Hi @HobbesOnTour Pertinent questions all, and I probably should have put this in a much earlier post:

Just curious....
Do you (or management) actively recruit clients or is there an "assembly line" (apologies for crudity) of clients sent to you?

We will be sent clients by the local social security office/Job Centre: the programmes are for people who are "Long term" unemployed, which is defined as unemployed for over two years, and for migrants and refugees having difficulty integrating. It can run for up to two years at a time. We get a list on Thursday and they will generally turn up on the following Monday.

We can turn people away if they clearly aren't going to fit, and clients can say no, but if the clients refuse all help they will be sanctioned, which is really unpleasant.

As an aside, this is much less flexible than the system in Stuttgart, which was a one stop system where anyone in need could walk into the organisation and get an interview with my boss aka "The Chief", and assistance with everything from housing to drug rehab, and a placement in the programme within a week, regardless of health issues and current addictions. It was designed partly by The Chief, who is a legend in Stuttgart. It was a privilege to work with him and I really wish I could take my current employer there.

What skills/experience do they have, are there any requirements for such from your end or the management?

There are no requirements, it's our job to deal with whoever comes. We have people with an Ausbildung which is a three year apprenticeship recognised all over Germany, through to people with no work skills, life skills or social skills, or even basic German ability, and with or without psychological issues.

Over the last decade or so the skill level of clients has apparently dropped a great deal, because the local employment situation is fairly good so if people aren't employed there's generally a reason for it. For example, not having an Ausbildung is pretty rare in Germany: you are more likely to be asked "What's your Ausbildung?" than "What's your job?"

Are there any rules/prohibitions on acquiring "outside" volunteers? (I'm assuming your son is an exception?)

We have a number of volunteers, and the rules are generally the same as for clients. Most are retired and looking to so something useful for their community. Elder Son is unusual because he's a lot younger and is coming to a place he can use a specific skill.

I'm just curious if there's an obvious way to improve productivity of the whole process with the appointment of the "right people". (Again apologies for the crudity).

Not really, and I understand your thinking. If I may up the crudity a notch, for certain local government officials we are sometimes seen as a sort of "dustbin" for the people they don't know how to deal with but need to put on some kind of programme somewhere.

Enthusiastic, experienced volunteers could help you a lot, not just in terms of labour and experience but in freeing up your time to work more closely with the clients.
Judging by the replies to this thread there are quite a few people who would be interested in such a proposition.

I had to think about this a bit, because volunteering is seen differently in this culture.

In some ways it is treated more honourably than in the UK; there's a federal voluntary programme for (mostly) young people to volunteer up to two years in a charity or social organisation where they get all expenses covered and some pocket money which means young people from all backgrounds have financial security and gain useful work experience while volunteering. Volunteers for things like the fire brigade enjoy specific legal protections and get a full Ausbildung. (Elder Son is currently doing this, because he's awesome).

However, I think the fact that most people have a profession means that if they are working in this profession they expect to be paid. If they don't have the training for something skilled like bike maintenance, they won't volunteer. A skilled volunteer in the specific area of work, like Elder Son, is something of a rarity unless it's a preserved railway or similar.

In some ways I suppose these answers reveal some of the weaknesses of the culture, which cause the problems we are trying to deal with in the first place.
 

DRM

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That’s quite interesting, it seems that in some instances your going to have to teach some basic engineering skills, which will take up a lot of your time, I think it’s something you’re either interested in or not, many people nowadays don’t want to get their hands dirty, and have no interest in repairing things, these are the people your going to struggle with.
It does seem a bit unfair if they could well be better learning a skill they are interested in , for example an admin skills for office work could be a better fit
 
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