Streaming Cycling in UK - Discovery+ prices!

[Dogtrousers]

I never really watched any of them fully live, unless I happened to be free in the afternoon. But I did usually watch the on-demand copy of the live stream later, just skipping through bits, as thaht seemed much better than theDiscovery+ "highlights" programme.

I have the Tour on in another room, if I'm working at home, ready to pop in and have a look. And I do watch the whole (or majority) of some of the classics like P-R, RVV. Maybe I have my phone streaming the action while gardening or something like that. But I can live without these things. They're just luxuries.

It all hinges on how pants or otherwise these highlights are.

 

[bobdaspider]

A final thought on the Warner Bros / TNT paywall... Once upon a time, so many in the UK thought it was a good idea to get rid of restrictions – less control not more. Who needs the regular, after all, they have far too much control. We want less restriction, not more. Fine, welcome to the world of de-regulation, of unrestricted capitalism US style, where the highest bidder has control, and those with money have the power. As for the ordinary folk, we just have to tow the line because we don’t have the choice or the protection of the regulator anymore. We are but the mere play things of the rich. I doubt that those in other parts of Europe will make the same mistake that we in the UK have made. 🤔

 

[mjr]

There is a difference between being illegal and being against the T&C.

B&C probably breach the T&C, but will not be illegal.

There you go, @bobdaspider!

I'd say that breaking the terms (rather than terminating the agreement neatly) is illegal, but not itself criminal.

There were some moves to criminalise all copyright infringement and not only the large bootleggers, but I don't know how they finished. That could make it criminal in some cases.

 

[straas]

There you go, @bobdaspider!

I'd say that breaking the terms (rather than terminating the agreement neatly) is illegal, but not itself criminal.

There were some moves to criminalise all copyright infringement and not only the large bootleggers, but I don't know how they finished. That could make it criminal in some cases.

I don't think private company T&C's are enshrined into law

 

[mjr]

I don't think private company T&C's are enshrined into law

Yet contract law that the T&Cs rely on is, well, law.

 

[bobdaspider]

Agreed, from memory, contract law would cover situations whereby one would agree to the conditions as part of one's acceptance of the T&Cs. However, one wouldn't be talking about criminal law - only civil law, meaning the provider of the service (the T&Cs) would have to take out a civil action against you but considering the cost and logistics in doing so, this is very (very) unlikely to happen. They consider action against the VPN provider but certainly not the individual user of the VPN service.

Bobdaspider, LLB (Hons) (Open)

 

[Alex321]

Yet contract law that the T&Cs rely on is, well, law.

They are, but it is unlawful, not illegal to breach them.

Civil case only, no criminal case.

 

[mjr]

They are, but it is unlawful, not illegal to breach them.

Civil case only, no criminal case.

As I posted earlier: "illegal, but not itself criminal." (unlawful and illegal are synonyms in this sense)

 

[Alex321]

As I posted earlier: "illegal, but not itself criminal." (unlawful and illegal are synonyms in this sense)

They aren't synonyms.

Illegal means it is a criminal act. Unlawful is a wider meaning, that it is against the rules in a particular context - this can include criminal acts, but also includes civil wrongs which are not criminal.

Breach of contract terms is not normally illegal.

 

[mjr]

They aren't synonyms.

Illegal means it is a criminal act.

Good luck with that!

 

[Alex321]

Good luck with that!

I'm not sure what you mean there. That is the definition, as generally used in legal matters.

 

[Dogtrousers]

They aren't synonyms.

Illegal means it is a criminal act. Unlawful is a wider meaning, that it is against the rules in a particular context - this can include criminal acts, but also includes civil wrongs which are not criminal.

Breach of contract terms is not normally illegal.

Gosh this is really interesting. And bang on topic to boot!

 

[kingrollo]

Are there any UK online petitions about the withdrawal of cycling TV coverage?

 

[cyberknight]

Are there any UK online petitions about the withdrawal of cycling TV coverage?

https://www.change.org/p/preserve-eurosport-channels-and-prevent-their-merger-with-tnt-sports

 

[Domus]

Cancelled my Disco+ this morning and immediately got the 50% offer.