Six Nations 2016

[nickyboy]

But your position is completely at odds with that of the Authorities who require the referees to interpret the Laws, and to interpret them differently at different levels of the game.

A "just enforce the Laws" model would result in uncontested scrums from kick off to no side and the complete abolition of lineouts in a matter of one or two seasons as, at every level of the game, in every one of these set pieces, at least one player breaks one Law, every single time. But not all Law breaking is material, or so the Authorities say, and they leave it to the referee to interpret that.

What I mean is that, as we have a game where it's laws are broken, for example, in every single line out, let's simplify the laws. It's a complete nonsense to have a set of laws that govern how the game should be played then accept a situation where the laws are broken in every single instance.

I don't want a situation where a referee has no option but to disregard laws being broken so as to actually produce a game that spectators want to watch. The answer is not to expect the referees to do this but for the authorities to produce a set of laws that players can play within. Then the referee's job is to penalise each and every infraction of the laws

 

[GrumpyGregry]

What I mean is that, as we have a game where it's laws are broken, for example, in every single line out, let's simplify the laws. It's a complete nonsense to have a set of laws that govern how the game should be played then accept a situation where the laws are broken in every single instance.

I don't want a situation where a referee has no option but to disregard laws being broken so as to actually produce a game that spectators want to watch. The answer is not to expect the referees to do this but for the authorities to produce a set of laws that players can play within. Then the referee's job is to penalise each and every infraction of the laws

How would a line out restart work in your world? Or a scrum? Any contest?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

at last Scotland. At last. Very well played.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

two further points...

six nations game tickets are massively oversubscribed
tv audiences for the elite game are bouyant
that vast majority of rugby is played without an audience. Apart from that old bloke and his terrier.

ok that's three points.

 

[rualexander]

Good win for Scotland, bit of a nailbiter with 15 minutes to go though. Terrible coverage by ITV though, too many adverts at half time, and only a brief interview with Ross Ford at full time, no interview with Greig Laidlaw (man of the match) or Vern Cotter, just a brief studio discussion before going off to cover the build up to the England match for half an hour.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

are we back to reinventing league, again?

well, if not, I genuinely want to know what the new rules will be, and how the features of the Union code that make it distinct will operate under them, in the world of entertainment is all.

Uncontested scrums?

 

[martint235]

I think McCluskey has been a mistake for Ireland. Yes he's big but he seems to lack the finesse and speed for inside centre.

England should have been out of sight by now

 

[martint235]

I think McCluskey has been a mistake for Ireland. Yes he's big but he seems to lack the finesse and speed for inside centre.

England should have been out of sight by now

And then naturally he gets the ball and runs half the pitch

 

[swee'pea99]

If England had the close-passing precision of the All Blacks they'd be something like 15 ahead by now.

 

[martint235]

I am struggling to see it not coming

I was starting to worry but I think we've got it sorted now

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Mike Brown = Red Mist = Red Card for illegal use of the boot. He HAS to exercise care and cannot make contact legally with head or face of another player. Was it accidental or not deliberate? Nothing happens by accident at that level. He had a very quiet game and let his frustration boil over. Again.

Officials got that woefully wrong imo, and I expect a citing.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

no thanks

So. How to keep scrums but do away with the need for a ref to judge which of the minimum of five offences that happen at each and every one are materially affecting the game? Answers on a post card to

"The players are fallible so why can't the referee be fallible too?"
c/o IRB
Twickers
That Lahndahn.
EN21 10IR

 

[GrumpyGregry]

So. Who thinks we can beat a fired up first rate Welsh team by playing a man down for 20 minutes and very averagely for the other 60?

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

@Marmion

I was very surprised when I heard the score. We're still shite tho.

 

[martint235]

So. Who thinks we can beat a fired up first rate Welsh team by playing a man down for 20 minutes and very averagely for the other 60?

I thought there was enough to be hopeful about though. Of all the things Jones is meant to bring an attention to discipline is fairly high up. So the cards and penalty count should fall