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gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
I watched the first one thinking 'why did they let him go? I would have held him to the ground'
I then watched the second one, which i had see before, and thought 'that is way beyond the line'

It was amusing watching him trying set off on fixed and then having to stop!
 
This one is the antidote to the first two.

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]View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa3NVfFlEU[/media]
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
The guy getting a kicking... good. I would have done the same. Bike thieves (in fact all thieves) deserve a kicking.
 

steve52

I'm back! Yippeee
this is not mindless violence , it had a clear purpose to discorace the guy from stealing bikes, i think that even if temporay this would have been achived, there are few people who will do something if the reward is negative, or painfull and would love to live where this reaction is more common.
This. There is no excuse for mindless violence like that. Shame on the guy filming it too.
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
I once had a bike stolen by 2 hoodies from the side of my house. I saw them and chased after them on my other bike. I lost them but after some searching stumbled upon them down the local woods. I politely asked to have my bike back and they sheepishly gave it back and sloped of. It was later suggested to me that the accepted practice in such circumstances is to tax the offender (ie - empty his or her pockets) but tbh i was just gratefull to get the bike back. Beating people up isnt the answer - it is a problem with society and the pervasive acceptance among a large proportion of society that stealing is ok.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
I once had a bike stolen by 2 hoodies from the side of my house. I saw them and chased after them on my other bike. I lost them but after some searching stumbled upon them down the local woods. I politely asked to have my bike back and they sheepishly gave it back and sloped of. It was later suggested to me that the accepted practice in such circumstances is to tax the offender (ie - empty his or her pockets) but tbh i was just gratefull to get the bike back. Beating people up isnt the answer - it is a problem with society and the pervasive acceptance among a large proportion of society that stealing is ok.

Why do you think society thinks stealing is OK? I believe it is because very little is ever done even if the thief is caught. Cut of the hand and he/she has one more chance. Sometimes such behaviour needs to be met with force. Do you realise that even in the first video the Lady could be charged with Common Assault!
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
Why do you think society thinks stealing is OK? I believe it is because very little is ever done even if the thief is caught. Cut of the hand and he/she has one more chance. Sometimes such behaviour needs to be met with force. Do you realise that even in the first video the Lady could be charged with Common Assault!
I think a large section of society thinks stealing is ok because a large section of society is morally corrupted.
The fact that a large section of society is morally corrupt is because society allows , fosters , even encourages it.
It is in many ways an insolvable paradox - the caring socialist democracy (a good ideal) by its very nature also encourages lack of individual responsibility and consequentially a moral decline.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
I think a large section of society thinks stealing is ok because a large section of society is morally corrupted.
The fact that a large section of society is morally corrupt is because society allows , fosters , even encourages it.
It is in many ways an insolvable paradox - the caring socialist democracy (a good ideal) by its very nature also encourages lack of individual responsibility and consequentially a moral decline.

I grew up in the 1970's. If a thief was caught in the act he got a good kicking and the police would shake the hand(s) of person/people who did it. Morality is linked with the punishment, be it the fear of it or the acceptance or it. As people with low morals "raise" children the chances are those children will also have no morals. It gets to the point where people believe they can behave as they like and no one has a right to stop them.
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
I grew up in the 1970's. If a thief was caught in the act he got a good kicking and the police would shake the hand(s) of person/people who did it. Morality is linked with the punishment, be it the fear of it or the acceptance or it. As people with low morals "raise" children the chances are those children will also have no morals. It gets to the point where people believe they can behave as they like and no one has a right to stop them.

Yes - society should essentially be a group of people with a shared set of values, rules , morality etc. A strong legal , judiciary is required for the inevitable waiverers.
Theres obviously something wrong. And given the expenses scandal one has to question if politicians are part of the disease rather than part of the cure.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Yes - society should essentially be a group of people with a shared set of values, rules , morality etc. A strong legal , judiciary is required for the inevitable waiverers.
Theres obviously something wrong. And given the expenses scandal one has to question if politicians are part of the disease rather than part of the cure.

They are most certainly part of the disease. That said it is a case of Aegrescit medendo when it comes to politicians. Mind you I would quite like to give Tony Blair a good kicking as part of his war crimes punishment.
 
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