Rotational head injuries

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byegad

Legendary Member
Location
NE England
A rotational head injury is not a neck injury. It happens when the head is turned and then stopped violently. The brain twists inside the skull and blood vessels get torn, bruising occurs and you are in trouble. John Franklin's research suggests that helmet wearers suffer more of this kind of injury than none helmet wearers.
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
I do own a helmet must admit to rarely, if ever wearing it. I just don't like it for various reasons.

I have a habit of spending a lot of time reading all things Raleigh Twenty related on the web which brought me to this story If John didn't wear his helmet, what would have been the outcome of this accident? 
 
I do own a helmet must admit to rarely, if ever wearing it. I just don't like it for various reasons.

I have a habit of spending a lot of time reading all things Raleigh Twenty related on the web which brought me to this story If John didn't wear his helmet, what would have been the outcome of this accident?

A more pertinent question would be "If John had worn a modern helmet, what would have been the outcome of this accident? "

1. The helmet is an older model with thick foam that condensed and absorbed the impact. According to present research in the States the modern helmets have less absorbent material and that which remains is denser and less compactable - absorbing less energy

2. This helmet is free of snag points and hence would not rotate the head in an impact or arrest movement increasing the potential of DAI or similar

3. A modern helmet may have ejected and fulfilled no useful function!


There is a real possibility that a modern helmet would have been less effective!


Edited - and the Bell Biker helmet also passed the strenuous Snell tests, so also offers a higher standard of protection than the feeble EN1078 - a standard now unacceptable in the US
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
I got knocked off my bike once, somersaulted and slammed the back of my head into the pavement. I saw stars briefly but got up. The back of the helmet was flattened and imprinted with the texture of the ground and the straps were embedded in the shell. The helmet had split right down the middle. I have no doubt that if I hand't been wearing it; I'd have been injured much worse. I sent the helmet back to Specialized: can't remember if I got a free replacement.

A few weeks ago Gti junior was riding his bike around the house when he lost control. I saw him crash; he nutted a concrete fence post. The helmet took the impact and he laughed and got back on his bike.
 
I got knocked off my bike once, somersaulted and slammed the back of my head into the pavement. I saw stars briefly but got up. The back of the helmet was flattened and imprinted with the texture of the ground and the straps were embedded in the shell. The helmet had split right down the middle. I have no doubt that if I hand't been wearing it; I'd have been injured much worse. I sent the helmet back to Specialized: can't remember if I got a free replacement.

A few weeks ago Gti junior was riding his bike around the house when he lost control. I saw him crash; he nutted a concrete fence post. The helmet took the impact and he laughed and got back on his bike.

Sorry Mark - he made me do it!

Does Gti Junior wear a Thudguard while running round the house?
 

yello

Guest
I have no doubt that if I hand't been wearing it; I'd have been injured much worse. I sent the helmet back to Specialized: can't remember if I got a free replacement.

"Can't remember"!!! Sounds like you suffered a head injury! :laugh: ;)
 

snailracer

Über Member
I got knocked off my bike once, somersaulted and slammed the back of my head into the pavement. I saw stars briefly but got up. The back of the helmet was flattened and imprinted with the texture of the ground and the straps were embedded in the shell...
Hah, I had the imprint of a bus on the back of my ex-helmet.
 

Grizzly

Well-Known Member
Location
East Kilbride
My son fell off his bike, it was not at high speed and not from a great hight. The helmet had a crack through it and I'm in no doubt it saved him from a visit to the hospital.

During the summer I attended an incident where a car ran into a group of 4 cyclists, none of these cyclists had a head injury that was a cause of concern and all were wearing a helmet.
Do you think there is a motoring forum out there where the members are discussing seat belts? As the use of seatbelts can be attributed to clavical fractures, sternum and rib fractures as well as chest and abdominal bruising. Airbags have also been known to kill but I doubt anyone is arguing against them. The idea of safety equipment is to reduce the risk of serious injury, sometimes this is done at the increased risk of minor to moderate injury.
 

reacher

Senior Member
if you spent some time in the gym training the rest of your bodys and did'nt have necks like chickens then you would have no fear of a bit of plastic on the top of your heads turning it more than it should ,
what a ridiculous argument to say that wearing helmets and a bit of twisting out weighs the advantages of wearing a helmet in a collision where your head smashs into a solid object at 20 mph or more and comes to a dead stop ,
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
if you spent some time in the gym training the rest of your bodys and did'nt have necks like chickens then you would have no fear of a bit of plastic on the top of your heads turning it more than it should ,
what a ridiculous argument to say that wearing helmets and a bit of twisting out weighs the advantages of wearing a helmet in a collision where your head smashs into a solid object at 20 mph or more and comes to a dead stop ,

Sigh. By that argument, you would also have the neck and arm muscles and general upper body development to avoid hitting your head on the ground in the first place, in 99% of cases. We have very strong instincts to protect the head at the expense of other body parts, and I speak as one who collected a sternoclavicular dislocation along with his most recent head injury
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
We have very strong instincts to protect the head at the expense of other body parts, and I speak as one who collected a sternoclavicular dislocation along with his most recent head injury
If the instinct to protect your head was strong enough, then injuring it once should have been enough to make you avoid doing it again! ;)
 
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