RIP Queen Elizabeth

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Dogtrousers

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Why not just sail the coffin slowly past the queue several times a day? That would save all day queuing.

You are a genius.
 

theclaud

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It's what you might call a curatorial decision, the Queue. It's not about the most efficient way to get the largest number of people through, but about what kind of experience it creates for the queuers, the passers-by of the queue, and for the viewers of images / deadstreams. And of course, as DT points about above, it's not an especially large number of people for a national event which we are told everybody is part of - a Coventry or Barnet's worth, or 4.5 big Wembley games. It serves the various purposes of signifying huge numbers by its linear endlessness, going on for days, and becoming a spectacle in itself. The queue is a signifier of Britishness which resonates beyond hardcore monarchists. As Dan Snow has observed, it is supposed to feel like an old-fashioned ritual, in keeping with the nation's current appetite for nostalgia and the celebration of a mythical past. I admit to being slightly fascinated by the queue despite hating everything else about the royal deathfest.
 
I think a lot of the adulation comes from the older generation whom went through WW2 with her. Now Charlie's on the throne (and how long will he last?), I think maybe the adulation will wane. He's always had a bit of an odd relationship with the pro-royal Tory right wing press (who make wads of money out of the monarchy). I remember stories of him talking to his plants, always been a bit of an 'alternative hippy' type which today, right wing Tories would call 'woke'.

He's already said he'll shrink the monarchy as its becoming increasingly difficult to justify having one in a country full of food banks, homeless on the streets, fuel poverty,a cost of living crisis ongoing etc.

Loads of news reporters talking to young women including one big eyed young lady crying her eyes out. Pathetic to get that upset about someone you've never met or known personally IMHO. Still it's all part of the collective mania and that's all OK right!
 

a.twiddler

Veteran
The number of the gun carriage team is 98, I believe, of all ranks. It dates back to Queen Victoria's funeral, so not such an ancient tradition. Nevertheless, those involved are likely to view it as a privilege to be chosen.

I think it's well established that the death of a public figure such as the Queen causes people's own personal grief at their own losses -grandparents, parents, siblings -to emerge again in tandem with anything they might feel for that public figure. A kind of focus if you like. When I was a crass young man I used to make light of other people's grief but I know better now. You might think the reason for their grief is trivial but it's real enough to them. Everyone suffers some loss at some time, so we should show some consideration for others and their view of the world.

Line of Duty is rather apt, as the one for whom they are queuing to pay their respects was dutiful to the end.
 

slowmotion

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It's what you might call a curatorial decision, the Queue. It's not about the most efficient way to get the largest number of people through, but about what kind of experience it creates for the queuers, the passers-by of the queue, and for the viewers of images / deadstreams. And of course, as DT points about above, it's not an especially large number of people for a national event which we are told everybody is part of - a Coventry or Barnet's worth, or 4.5 big Wembley games. It serves the various purposes of signifying huge numbers by its linear endlessness, going on for days, and becoming a spectacle in itself. The queue is a signifier of Britishness which resonates beyond hardcore monarchists. As Dan Snow has observed, it is supposed to feel like an old-fashioned ritual, in keeping with the nation's current appetite for nostalgia and the celebration of a mythical past. I admit to being slightly fascinated by the queue despite hating everything else about the royal deathfest.

Are you suggesting that people sprint past the coffin? Maybe the event could be incorporated into a London Marathon?
 
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DRM

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Just heard on the news 150 service personnel are going to have to pull the Royal Gun Carriage
Have the horses gone on strike?

Could get the Royal Navy field gun race team involved, that would speed things up no end, put a few up and under obstacles out too to liven things up a bit, but seriously itā€™s getting silly now with the news coverage just going over the same old thing over and over and over again, thereā€™s nothing left to say now, yet thereā€™s a whole lot going on in the world that isnā€™t being reported on, yet you would have no idea thanks to our news outlets
 
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Mike_P

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It's easy news for the press, remember the head of the news team on Radio Trent being asked if he could relax when the miners strike finished in the mid 80s, "relax? The work starts now. We now have to look for news".
 
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