RIP - Hadrian’s wall tree

[tom73]

If it's got a preservation order on it, then even more so.

Plymouth City Council are in hot water over cutting down trees during a redevelopment project. So yeah, it's a "thing"

TPO's are a total chocolate teapot not worth the paper. LA over see them no end of them get removed when political convenient. Saying that many of the tree protection officers I've dealt with a chocolate teapot would be of more use.
Unlike building's no national body over seeing protecting trees it's a right old mess like most of our environmental protection.

 

[Reynard]

TPO's are a total chocolate teapot not worth the paper. LA over see them no end of them get removed when political convenient. Saying that many of the tree protection officers I've dealt with a chocolate teapot would be of more use.
Unlike building's no national body over seeing protecting trees it's a right old mess like most of our environmental protection.

Why am I not surprised...

Having said that, you can *eat* a chocolate teapot...

 

[markemark]

TPO's are a total chocolate teapot not worth the paper. LA over see them no end of them get removed when political convenient. Saying that many of the tree protection officers I've dealt with a chocolate teapot would be of more use.
Unlike building's no national body over seeing protecting trees it's a right old mess like most of our environmental protection.

Really? We have a couple of neighbouring trees and our council wrote to us making us aware of the TPO and consequences in no uncertain terms. I have not heard of any council ramifications re trees locally but certainly heard about buildings being forced adjusted so assumed they'd equally have teeth with the TPOs?

 

[classic33]

Why am I not surprised...

Having said that, you can *eat* a chocolate teapot...

You never had a chocolate log?

 

[Reynard]

You never had a chocolate log?

A buche de noel? Sure!

 

[tom73]

Why am I not surprised...

Having said that, you can *eat* a chocolate teapot...

Even better eating it under the shade of a beautiful tree.

Really? We have a couple of neighbouring trees and our council wrote to us making us aware of the TPO and consequences in no uncertain terms. I have not heard of any council ramifications re trees locally but certainly heard about buildings being forced adjusted so assumed they'd equally have teeth with the TPOs?

Thats the point LA decide when to impose one and can equally remove it when they feel like. Listing a building is via Historic England (formally over seen by English Heritage) on behalf of sec of state DCMS. LA enforce them via planning regs. Removing it requires Historic England and ultimately sec of state say so. Tree's have no over seeing independent protection. If a council want it gone then TPO is removed and down it comes.

 

[markemark]

Even better eating it under the shade of a beautiful tree.

Thats the point LA decide when to impose one and can equally remove it when they feel like. Listing a building is via Historic England (formally over seen by English Heritage) on behalf of sec of state DCMS. LA enforce them via planning regs. Removing it requires Historic England and ultimately sec of state say so. Tree's have no over seeing independent protection. If a council want it gone then TPO is removed and down it comes.

But presumably if the TPO is in place and it gets cut down, then the lumberjack ()will be in trouble with the council?

 

[DaveReading]

Within a few years there will be a sizeable sapling there and most people won't realise anything had ever happened

Well those who can't tell the difference between a 200-year-old tree and a sapling, at least ...

 

[tom73]

But presumably if the TPO is in place and it gets cut down, then the lumberjack ()will be in trouble with the council?

If the TP officer can be bothered , has the time to deal with it and the money to do it. Unlike a building the damage can't be put right.
If you really want to know what LA think about trees look at the mess Sheffield got into with street trees.

 

[Gillstay]

Sycamore is a very nice wood; if they harvest the fallen tree the NT can make lots of "certified" small wood items from it, and sell them at a high markup to people who want to support maintenance of the wall.

Then they can train the shoots the tree will put out in Spring to regrow it from the stump. Within a few years there will be a sizeable sapling there and most people won't realise anything had ever happened; those who do will be part of the story of reconstruction.

You must mean decades, this is not a nice warm spot in the south.

 

[Mike_P]

On the 6 o'clock news tonight the on site tree expert (?) said if it regrew it would have a split trunk and not be as attractive to look at.

 

[Kingfisher101]

I don't really care about this. I think we have more important things to concern ourselves with in the U.K.
Obviously, It was a nasty thing to do, but its gone now, so people need to move on.

 

[Gillstay]

On the 6 o'clock news tonight the on site tree expert (?) said if it regrew it would have a split trunk and not be as attractive to look at.

Well it would be a coppiced tree with multiple stems, the number of which would depend on how many survive the sheep or are carefully pruned out. It will have to make the shoots first though and that may not happen.

 

[Tail End Charlie]

I thought you were the son of Conan the Barbarian ?

Or was it Conan the Librarian??

 

[Tail End Charlie]

On the 6 o'clock news tonight the on site tree expert (?) said if it regrew it would have a split trunk and not be as attractive to look at.

I don't think a tree of that age will regrow well. If it does, a lot of weak shoots will be thrown up, which, if one is left, could possibly grow to a replacement (in 300 years!).