Reporting mobile use while driving

[bjellys]

Thanks for the constructive comments I'm back to the MTB section they are a happy lot in there, they cycle without a care in the world and do not rise to the bait like in the Commuting section.
Nothing like a lively debate to keep you on your toes.

 

[dawesome]

How can a grown man remain in complete ignorance about how roads are paid for, and think cyclists don't pay any tax, it's a whole new level of stupidity.

 

[gaz]

The cycling community me included pays F### All towards the roads if it wasn't for the motorists revenue income tax and vat would be astronomical.

The amusing thing here is that you know absolutely nothing about how the road network works, but you spout off like you do.

For starters, roads on the majority are maintained by the local council. Do they get motorists 'road tax' for upkeep of them? certainly not directly and certainly not all of it.
VED (road tax) is based on the emission the engine makes. The more it makes, the more you pay. Some cars, such as the VW Polo Blue motion, pay zero VED because their engine makes very little emissions. Should that car be banished from the roads?

So in your mind, because the motoring sector pays so much tax, it there for gives them more rights on the road. Rights to do what ever they want and rights to almost injure those that pay less than them?

You are a joke.

 

[benb]

Thanks for the constructive comments I'm back to the MTB section they are a happy lot in there, they cycle without a care in the world and do not rise to the bait like in the Commuting section.
Nothing like a lively debate to keep you on your toes.

Translation: I was trolling to provoke a reaction.
Pathetic.

 

[EasyCrank]

As some of you may have seen, I've taken to riding with a descrete camera attached to my handlebars. While I'm not going to win any OSCARs with it, it's great for picking up dodgy drivers along with their number plates. A useful little feature...

 

[bjellys]

Translation: I was trolling to provoke a reaction.
Pathetic

Looking at some of the other members comments about my posts I didn't realize you can only voice one point of view and that is yours.I just take a more laid back & less intense attitude towards these things and try to enjoy every moment of every day.I dont want to live in a Gestapo type state and I dont want to grass my own mum or dad up for using a mobile when driving as some members would.
As for not understanding the way the government collects and spends it's taxes I certainly know the way they collect it and waste it when they spend it.
I drive to work 650 miles a week ( no other choice ) and pay 62 % tax on every gallon of fuel I buy this equates to about £ 48 per week in fuel tax,so please don't try and tell me that the cyclists pays equal amounts into the proverbial pot they don't ! I would like to know how many members think they should pay road tax for their bike ?
As for the members who think I am not a cyclist I cycle every day (7 days a week ) I used to run every day before that.I am now 64 years old and have a laid back attitude to life I have seen lots of changes over the years some good some bad and the one thing I have learned is not to swallow all the spin and lies the politicians feed us and most of all to enjoy my cycling and not go looking to report some other human being for minor misdemeanour's you all seem to me to need to chill-out a bit and enjoy your cycle to work.
Last but not least the next time you are trying to beat your cycle to work best ever time think of the poor homeless person in a shop doorway.get off your bike give them your sandwiches & and a couple of quid this will help them and you. It might even get you out of the me me me attitude.
On a side note I went to box hill last Saturday for a family picnic and was looking forward to zooming up Zigzag road in my car ( the Olympic route ) but I couldn't because of all the bloody cyclists hundreds of them riding two abreast (there were signs saying single file for cyclists )
did I moan No I just laughed and thought of you lot on here.
have a good day

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[BentMikey]

You're mistaken. On average, cyclists pay MORE towards the roads. Not only do most cyclists own cars, but cyclists are over-represented by high earners. Cyclists subsidise your road use.

 

[benb]

Of course you can express a differing point of view, but when you say things that are factually wrong, you can expect to be challenged and corrected.

And when you admit that you were only trying to get us to "rise to the bait" you can see why that comes across as trolling.

 

[bjellys]

You're mistaken. On average, cyclists pay MORE towards the roads. Not only do most cyclists own cars, but cyclists are over-represented by high earners. Cyclists subsidise your road use.

Do you subsidise the lorry's as well ? I have never heard such a load of nonsense as this in all my life Ha Ha

 

[bjellys]

Of course you can express a differing point of view, but when you say things that are factually wrong, you can expect to be challenged and corrected.

And when you admit that you were only trying to get us to "rise to the bait" you can see why that comes across as trolling

I am try trying to tell you there is a great big world outside of your little bubble,you need to embrace it and enjoy it.
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[BentMikey]

The only nonsense here is your ignorance, bjellys. If you really did understand even a little about the tax system, you'd realise that all taxpayers are subsidising motoring costs. Only some of those taxpayers are drivers, who don't pay the full costs of their motoring.

 

[gavintc]

Do you subsidise the lorry's as well ? I have never heard such a load of nonsense as this in all my life Ha Ha

We all pay for truck VED and fuel. Hauliers do not drive for charity, but cover their costs through their daily/mile charges. So, in answer to your troll question, every time you buy something, you are indirectly paying for the truck.

 

[gavintc]

I drive to work 650 miles a week ( no other choice ) and pay 62 % tax on every gallon of fuel I buy this equates to about £ 48 per week in fuel tax,so please don't try and tell me that the cyclists pays equal amounts into the proverbial pot they don't ! I would like to know how many members think they should pay road tax for their bike ?

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Buy a car with a small engine - VED free
Buy a bike with a small engine (one man power) - VED free

I therefore pay my way quite adequately

Oh and I pay VED on my family car.

 

[benb]

Also, bicycles don't damage the road in any substantial way, so even if we pretend that VED pays for road maintenance, we are paying the correct amount.

 

[Miquel In De Rain]

So why should small cars pay no road tax (sic) but bikes pay for it?

Plus bikes have never paid road tax (sic) but suddenly we should pay road tax,what has changed apart from motorists bitterness?