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Yes, I think the door was on the right hand side, so it was probably where the pizza shop is.

VeloVision magazine visited him, and there's a photo of the outside of the shop in one of the magazines (I should have it somewhere...)

Some of the nearby roads were steep, with massive potholes!
 
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a.twiddler

a.twiddler

Veteran
Recumbent Ride
(Illicit ride No 3)
6/10/24

There had been some earlier rain, then drizzle. As it seemed to have stopped I thought I’d just take a twiddle round the local estate paths on the Spirit. So, left out of the gate, down on to the road and a good freewheel past a road junction then left into an estate road.

On to a path under some trees. It was noticeable that there were a lot more fallen leaves about than when I last took a ride only a few days ago. Turned right,
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then left at the next crossing. Up a slight slope then rode on hemmed in by garden fences on either side.
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Blurring not due to immense speed, but shaky hands!
I came to a road. With fattish tyres I had no concerns about going across the non lowered but not particularly high kerbs to where the path continued on the other side. With the Grasshopper having narrow slick tyres I’d had to be a bit more careful on my previous ride here. Some horse droppings suggested that there’d been a horse here recently. I continued up a very gradual slope with trees and shrubs on the left, garden fences on the right, a sort of roofless tunnel. This seemed to be prime time for dog walkers too, as I slowed or stopped several times to let them pass.

I came to another road, no traffic and lowish kerbs, so rode straight across. Another tunnel of fencing and shrubbery, then the view opened out on the right. Through some trees where there was a carpet of leaves and moss under wheel, up a short slope, and to the road. I was tempted to just turn left and freewheel the few hundred yards downhill to my back gate, but as there was a much longer gradual downhill in the direction I’d just come from, I decided to go back that way. I stopped by the open space for a photo, then carried on.
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Across the road, passing some of the dog walkers I’d passed earlier on the narrow path, across the next road, through another canyon between fencing panels, across the point where paths crossed and then to an estate road. Bizarrely, there seemed to be a pot with the reddish stems of a dried plant sticking upwards here but as I rode by I saw that it was a telephone cable access point with plastic coated fibre optic cables protruding from it.

I followed the estate road to its junction with the main road, turned right and was soon at my back gate. I certainly felt better after this ride, still trying not to overdo things. After I’d put the bike away it began to rain quite heavily, so I’d got the timing right on that.

Distance 2.07 miles. Max speed 12.9 mph. Average speed 4.9 mph. According to Garmin.
Ascent 63 ft. According to Bikehike.
 

oldwheels

Legendary Member
Location
Isle of Mull
Since this is Recumbent Rides I thought I should put up a ride I did last week on the mainland as I have not bern out much locally for a variety of reasons.

Started from the minor road towards Bonawe and then turned up the Moss Road to meet the main A828 northwards to the cycle path at Benderloch. This is a busy road with fast traffic so sprint the half mile to the cycle path after a burst of traffic from the lights at Connel Bridge have passed. After a look around Benderloch environs back down the path through the caravan park and past the airport then right to a picnic spot at N. Connel to see if any aircraft movements.
Nothing happening so back over the A828 at Connel Bridge and up the Bonawe road to base.
This was on my Kettwiessel trike and stopped off road to get a photo of Loch Etive with Ben Cruachan behind.

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a.twiddler

a.twiddler

Veteran
Recumbent Ride
(Illicit Ride No 7)
19/10/24


I’d ordered a couple of Marathon Greenguard tyres, 40-406, from two different sources due to a good price offer on each. One had arrived, which I’d fitted to the front wheel of the Grasshopper recumbent bike. There was still a Kojak 35-406 slick on the back. On each of my LWB bikes, fitting a wider tyre to the front had improved the feel of the steering, particularly on less than perfect surfaces. While waiting for the other one to arrive I thought I’d give it a test ride.

I turned right out of the gate and immediately felt that the steering didn’t feel as predictable as it had with two identical tyres – the slightest movement had me correcting and over correcting to keep going in a straight line. I thought I’d adapt to it, and recalled that despite the theoretical small difference between the 35-406 and the 40-406 the Marathon Greenguard looked much taller on the rim than the Kojak. This had the effect of raising the front end slightly, having an effect on the rake and trail. I would have expected the steering to be more self centreing with this set up, but it actually felt less stable. The seat certainly felt more reclined, even though it was probably no more than a couple of degrees.

I persevered up a small hill, past a school, then mounted a pavement on the right with the intention of turning right again into a leaf strewn path. On my right, a tall wooden fence panel. Beneath it, a good layer of fallen leaves. In the mirror, a distant pedestrian. I wanted to get off the pavement before he arrived. I felt a bit apprehensive starting off in this narrow space with little wobble room but thinking, what’s the worst that can happen, went for it.

I pushed off with the right pedal, got the other foot up, failed to make progress, put the right foot down. My foot slid on the leaves, I put my right hand out to the fence panel, which flexed, my hand slid down it in slow motion and I keeled over slowly to end up alongside the bike on a pile of fallen leaves.

Powered by embarrassment I struggled to my feet and picked up the bike just as the pedestrian came by and asked, “you all right mate? Need any help?” Rather ungraciously I said,”I’m fine thanks” and turned the bike round to go back downhill. My first thought was to head for home but as I got rolling I thought, “I’m not going to let this thing get the better of me”. The steering wasn’t any better but I just dealt with it. I turned left up a gradual hill then turned on to the other end of the path I’d originally intended to follow. I rode uphill to where the path cleared and stopped for some photos.

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I carried on up a damp leaf strewn slope where the rear slick slipped and wriggled until I reached the road, turned left, then freewheeled downhill to my back gate. I am curious to see if fitting the other Marathon Greenguard to the rear when it arrives, restores the balance.

Distance 1.44 miles. Max speed 13.1 mph. Average 5.3 mph. According to Garmin.
Ascent 53 ft. According to Bikehike.
 
I had Kojaks on my old Pashley PDQ to try to have as low a seat height as possible. They felt really sketchy on anything but the driest tarmac. Ditto on my Fuego, which now has standard Marathons.
 
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a.twiddler

a.twiddler

Veteran
Recumbent Ride
22/10/24
The Grasshopper as a Shopper


I’ve done 4 weeks now with no strenuous activity. I’ve not been inspected by anyone or given the “all clear” but having served my sentence it doesn’t feel as if there will be any harm in gradually increasing the mileage.

I feel as if I’ve become a flaccid blob over this time so I thought I’d introduce the Grasshopper to some local amenities so I could compare it to the other bikes’ handling. I bunged the Arkel RT40 panniers on the rack for some carrying capacity.

Turning right out of the back gate I saw immediately that having two Marathon Greenguards had made the bike feel much more planted, at least at the low speeds I’d had to compare with so far.

I headed to Swanlow Lane and the uphill traffic lights, going straight on. There was a lot of traffic about as it was nearing afternoon school run time. An annoyance compared with the USS on the Linear was that I couldn’t see what position the gear changers were in, but a bit of forward planning minimised that inconvenience. I’d converted the Linear to bar end levers for that reason, but being used to the SRAM Dual Drive grip shifters on the Spirit helped with the orientation to the same set up on this Grasshopper.

Soon I was approaching the A54 roundabout but a gap in the traffic allowed me to go round non stop to turn right downhill and pedal in high gear until I was slowed by traffic at the first set of lights. I stopped, then got going with the traffic again and blagged my way into the right hand lane to filter right at the next set of lights. Perhaps I’m trading too much on the weirdness factor of recumbent riding, but nine times out of ten, if you indicate that you want to change lane, following traffic will let you in. You just have to watch out for the other one in ten.

Right at the lights, right at the next mini roundabout, right at the next one into a supermarket car park to lock up at a barrier.
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As I stepped away the noise level increased and a crocodile of primary school kids and their teachers came by, probably on their way back to school from the nearby leisure centre and swimming pool. I don’t know if this is just a local phenomenon, but it seems to be a regular occurrence.

I was soon out again, with my tiny bit of shopping, unlocked and away down the pavement downhill to the road. I can virtually do trackstands with my LWB bikes but I’m not there yet with this one and am doing unnecessary stops where I will probably ride through in future once I’ve got to grips with its idiosyncracies. I turned right on to a roadside cycle track then went right at the next T junction and on to the road towards the town centre traffic lights. I stopped at the back of a queue of traffic until the lights changed then pedalled furiously across to Grange Lane.

I continued straight on to the sports complex, across a car park and along the path between the playing fields to the exit A frame barrier into a steep lane. It was littered with leaves and I wondered if there would be enough traction to get up it.
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I stopped at the barrier for a photo then pressed on.
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The rear wheel lost traction a few times but I was able to get up there without stopping. I realised that I was actually in my lowest gear, which is fair enough as the actual climbing felt easy enough. I’m sure there are places where I might be glad of something lower.

Since I haven’t climbed anything for about a month I was puffing a bit by the time I reached the top. I stopped for a breather then turned right uphill. The slope eased, and I came to a T junction at Delamere St., where I turned left.

Despite the traffic I was able to get into top and roll along at a decent speed on this undulating stretch of road. I soon reached the A54 roundabout and after a cautious approach, was able to roll straight across without stopping. There was a queue of traffic at the Townfields Road lights so I stopped and went with the flow when the lights turned green.

I steamed downhill then rolled uphill along Swanlow Lane and after a mile or so turned off and wended my way through various estate roads, paths and pavements to my back gate. I unloaded my shopping and had a cold drink.

Distance 5.7 miles. Max speed 25.2 mph. Average 7.5mph. According to Garmin.
Ascent 147 ft. According to Bikehike.
 
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a.twiddler

Veteran
2/11/24
Recumbent Ride
Library and shopping on the Grasshopper.


I’ve been getting withdrawal symptoms with various jobs to do while the bikes languished unridden in the garage. Today was mild and dry, though threateningly cloudy. I got my stuff together and went out of the back gate. I hadn’t done any actual rides since fitting a.twiddler’s remote kickstand extension contraption Mk 2 so this was the first opportunity to use it in earnest.

Out through the back gate, and the first thing to do was re adjust the mirror after previously fitting a height spacer to the bar end. Then, away towards Swanlow Lane and the uphill traffic lights. I felt that the seat wasn’t quite right but after a hundred yards or so I’d settled slightly and it felt better.

Since a recent episode of road works with temporary traffic lights I’d noticed that the timings had changed here and sure enough, the lights changed to red as I crossed the line, leaving me to pedal furiously to the other side while being overtaken by a SUV.

Without doing any real riding for the last month or so I felt seriously de tuned. At least I hope it was me, not the bike. It went well enough on the flat and I have a suspicion that it’s got a better speed potential compared to my more upright recumbents but it’s hard to compare like with like, as I had a bit more get up and go back in August when I did an 80 miler in fairly adverse conditions on the Linear.

I trundled onwards to the A54 roundabout at the end of Swanlow Lane and stopped with the rest of the waiting traffic. The lights changed, a gap opened up and I followed the road round to the right, downhill on the dual carriageway.

I experimentally pedalled downhill wondering what speed I might reach before having to ease off. I felt my cap peak flutter, pulled it down a bit, it fluttered again and before I could grab it, it flew off. I got to test the brakes, which are pretty good, before turning left on to a lowered pavement. I was going to walk it back up the hill, but it was surprisingly far back so I rode up the broad pavement, flipped the stand down and dived into a gap in the traffic to retrieve it. Considering it had been run over a couple of times it had survived well. It had just added to its disreputable appearance. I adjusted the strap, crammed it on my head and got back on. Why had it flown off? I’d come down this hill before on this bike and it had stayed on, so it’s not the seat angle. Just got to make sure it’s done up tight. I flipped the stand up and rejoined the traffic.

There was a lull in the traffic so I freewheeled downhill and worked my way to the filter lane for turning right at the lights. I stopped behind a queue of traffic waiting for the green, then once we got going, turned left at a lowered kerb. There was an old couple waiting to cross, so I gave them plenty of room before turning in.

I pedalled on along the broad pavement. Walking slowly ahead was the mandatory oblivious young fellow with headphones on. I slowed right down to let him increase the distance. He went straight on while I turned right to a new paved area where the town war memorials now are, outside the Library. There is a row of bike stands, but they are on the edge of a car park, some way from the Library. I locked the bike to a light pole just outside the Library.

I went in, conducted my business and came out. I paused to take some photos outside the library,
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and in front of the memorials,
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then trundled off to my usual supermarket. I gingerly navigated through the crowds then locked up to my usual barrier and went in. Out again, took a photo

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and was getting ready to go when a couple of middle aged chaps stopped.

One said, “Never seen a bike like that before”. I thought that maybe he ought to get out more, but then realized that neither had I until I bought this one, though I’ve seen pictures and videos. The other chap said, “It’s a recumbent bike!” I wondered if they were together. The first one said, “do you have trouble steering it? I moved the bars and the front wheel moved. “Oh!” he said. “Is it comfortable?” “Well, if you compare it with a conventional bike where all the weight on your behind is concentrated on a small saddle, then on one of these you have a seat that spreads the weight out, yes, it’s comfortable!” I then gratuitously bounced up and down a couple of times. “It’s got suspension, too!” I’d been watching the path alongside the car park during all this, and as it was now clear, set off without more ado.

Downhill towards the road, right along a pavement cycle path, right at the next T junction then right along the road towards the town centre traffic lights. Left onto a leaf strewn pavement, uphill alongside the dual carriageway. I expected some wheelspin or slippage on the wet leaves but I reached the top of the hill without any drama.

Left on to Swanlow Lane, through the lights at Townfields Road then downhill to get speed up for my uphill turn off. I went past my back gate and came back via various leaf strewn paths to get a bit more feel for the tyres. Surprisingly, there was no slippage and it tracked fine. Now if only I’d got a few more miles in. Maybe next time. The remote sidestand extension thingy worked fine, and didn't need any attention. I’d found that the boom could benefit from being further out so I adjusted it by 1 cm when I got home.

Distance 4.27 miles. Max 23.7 mph. Average 6mph. According to Garmin.
Ascent 126 ft. According to Bikehike
 
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a.twiddler

Veteran
Recumbent ride
10/11/24
Shopping and ride to Whitegate on the Grasshopper. Or, a Lotta Leafy Litter.


Time was, I’d just hop on a bike and go if I needed something from the local shops. When you’ve acquired several bikes as many have on this forum, life gets more complicated. As I’ve not been able to ride much recently for various reasons, the Grasshopper being the newest and least familiar has been at the top of the list. The Spirit is so easy to ride for urban shopping, the Linear is so familiar and I’ve mastered its quirks. The Grasshopper needs more time in the saddle as it still has the potential to catch me out. So, the Grasshopper it was.

I had a shopping list, the panniers were already attached. It was Remembrance Sunday so I remembered to wear a poppy. Most years I have attended the Service but this year I’ve been rather overwhelmed by other things. The Service was over by the time I set off, but there were bound to be plenty of people about in the town centre.

So, out through the back gate, across the road then sorted myself out to go to the right. Adjust the mirror, make sure my gilet pockets were zipped up so things wouldn’t fall out. I didn’t feel great, and crowds of people weren’t really what I wanted to see. I had a little trepidation as I’d not ridden this bike for over a week. Still, stand flipped up, right foot on pedal, and launch. I’d adjusted the boom a little after my last ride so was assessing whether it might need a little more. I soon came to the uphill traffic lights on Swanlow Lane which remained green while I toiled through them. It felt as though my get up and go had got up and gone today. I made the best of it and trundled onwards to the A54 roundabout. Busy traffic today, but I was able to keep moving through a gap, right round and then downhill. I clicked my way into high gear but was stopped by a red pedestrian crossing light.

Once rolling again, I signalled to the right and worked my way over to the filter lane for the town centre. I was stopped by another red light but at least had the benefit of being able to stop at the cyclists’ advance stop line, ready to go.

Once under way to the town centre I joined a cycle lane on the pavement and followed it left at the next junction, left through some bollards and alongside a supermarket car park. As I’d anticipated, there were plenty of people about so I wended my way through them to my usual parking space alongside a barrier. Once chained up, I left the bike and went inside.

I returned and loaded the panniers up. No photos, as there were just too many people about. I just had to get out of Dodge. I wanted to do a few miles to see how I felt afterwards.

Across the car park, left at the exit roundabout, left at the next one, straight at the next lights across the dual carriageway, then immediately right through some bollards into the old High St. Still not feeling great, but the freewheel down the long hill was pleasant. Near the bottom I passed a group of teenagers. I heard someone say, “What is that?” someone else said, “Is it a bike?”. Sounds like I’d started off a discussion as I disappeared downhill.

At the bottom of the hill, left on to New Road, which becomes Bradford Road. On the more open road here the seat recline was noticeable, as when I leaned my head back to a comfortable angle my forward vision became blurred. Due to wearing varifocal specs the distance part of the lens is near the top while the close up or reading part of the lens is at the bottom resulting in a balancing act between sharp vision and neck comfort. I made a mental note to dig out some old single vision specs when I got home. This might just be one solution. For other reasons it would be more useful to somehow make the seat more upright. I passed the end of the Whitegate way and continued for a short distance before turning round in the entrance to the salt mine. I returned to the Whitegate way, turned in and stopped under the trees. A carpet of brown leaves covered the trail to the vanishing point.
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There is a gradual uphill between here and the old Whitegate Station site. I set off and soon a couple of cyclists came the other way with occupied child seats. They said “Hi” and I responded.

The old Catsclough crossing appeared in the distance and slowly got closer.
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Though you would need a magnifying glass to see it in this picture!
There are two gates, one on each side of the lane that crosses the old railway. The narrow pedestrian and cycle access at the first gate is on the left, and at the second it is on the right. This is a good test of low speed bike handling, with all the leaves and concealed ruts, and I was pleased that I was able to ride through them both without stopping.

There were plenty of leaves about, more than I remember from previous years. From time to time a cluster of them would be swept into the mudguards, make a noise for a few revolutions then be swept out again. It was noticeable that there was a good amount of mudguard clearance. It was better than the Linear in this respect, with its limited clearance being an unexpected disadvantage arising from its 700C rear wheel conversion. The Spirit has similar mudguard clearance to the Grasshopper, helped by them both having disc brakes. In these conditions, probably being mudguardless is the best option.

I plodded on, passing a few walkers. A very faint drizzle started. I came to the slope down to the road where a former bridge over Grange Lane had been removed. Remembering that the front wheel was under my knees helped with getting down the narrow leaf strewn slope and through a barrier. I paddled across the lane, through another barrier then got lined up in bottom gear to get up the steep ramp to the old railway. I sat and looked at it for a minute. It was wider than the slope on the other side, certainly looked steeper, and gravelly and leafy. It was also now wet. I wondered, given the seat recline, how I’d cope if I stalled part way up. I suppose the answer is, don’t stall. Then again, I’d got up it easily on every other bike I’d owned over the years. So I just pedalled up it with no drama.

I carried on through an obstacle course of dog walkers, families with small kids on bikes and random mountain bikers who were all out despite the intensifying drizzle. I crossed the bridge over Whitegate Road and proceeded under the now-dripping trees to Whitegate Station car park. I stopped at the conveniences to inspect the plumbing.

It was noticeably raining now, but since I was here, I carried on a bit further. I stopped under the station bridge to shelter from the rain. Up to this point, with some slow riding and tight manoevreing my heel had made contact a few times with the front mudguard. I’d not let it bother me, apart from one instance when the contact had threatened to flip my right shoe off.

The wet leaves were more sticky now, with an occasional zizz from somewhere where they had accumulated. I couldn’t see anything, though the panniers didn’t help access at the rear. I carried on for another quarter mile before turning back. If not for the rain I would have gone further. It was mostly downhill on the way back, though the bike wasn’t freewheeling as well as expected. Again, crowds of people, undeterred by the rain, so I didn’t get much speed up. I stopped under a tree for a quick photo before the next knot of people appeared.
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I came to the steep down ramp, this time full of really wet leaves which I gingerly negotiated. No sign of a slip or skid. Although I’ve been taking it carefully with this bike since my initial experiences with the squirrelly Kojaks, now it’s got the Marathon Greenguards on it does seem gratifyingly sure footed.

As I came to the barrier at the road and stopped, an oncoming pickup flashed his lights for me to continue. I turned right on to Grange lane and found a crowd of walkers, and kids on tiny bikes going in my direction. I picked my way through them, flew down a dip and slowed down going up the other side. Even allowing for the load of shopping, this seemed like hard work.

I came to a T junction and turned right, then across the sports complex car park. I slowed down while a walker emerging from the exit ahead clipped on leads to two large dogs and moved on. I continued on the path between the playing fields to the exit A frame barrier. There was a thick layer of wet leaves leading up to it, and the lane beyond was well plastered too. I wiggled through the barrier, and after a wobble starting off where my right foot contacted the front mudguard, just went up the slippery slope with no problems. I stopped to wipe the rain from my glasses then had a look at the front wheel when I stopped at a junction and there seemed to be nothing under the mudguard but it was stiff to turn. The rear wheel spun freely. Was the front brake binding?

I decided to press on without using the front brake to see if it would free itself. I struggled uphill to the T junction with Delamere St, turned left but after a few hundred yards pulled up on the pavement, leaned it against a wall, and had another look. A bunch of kids passed on the opposite pavement, and one of them said, “Hey mister, do you wanna swap a Kit Kat for that bike?” The way I felt at that moment, I was sorely tempted, but I said, “How about I take the Kit Kat and keep the bike?” since I was already providing them with entertainment. I found nothing peculiar about the wheel, so I continued. I eventually reached a petrol station where I had another look away from the road. I tried loosening the caliper bolts, squeezing the brake lever and tightening the bolts again with no effect. I tried loosening and tightening the quick release lever, again with no effect. I decided I would take it all off when I got home, as I had only a mile or so to go. I carried on reasonably well on the flat or downhill but any slight uphill had me reaching for bottom gear. Across the A54 roundabout, slowly down Swanlow Lane, on the pavement at times to let traffic go by.

At last I got home, wheeled the bike in, and unloaded the shopping. Before attacking the front brake I loosened the front mudguard bridge bolt and lo and behold, the wheel spun freely. I slid the mudguard to the extent of its adjustment and clamped it tight. Could it be that while the mudguard had looked to have had clearance, it had been making contact with the tyre? I’d adjusted it when I fitted the Marathons as they are much fatter than the Kojaks were, but perhaps the occasional contact with my heel had moved it? I’ll have to keep an eye on that in future. It doesn’t take much to sap my meagre power output. I felt much better after solving that issue, having become fixated on the disc brake as being the cause.

Some conclusions from this ride. The first ride of over 10 miles since 30th August, and the furthest I’ve been on this bike so far.

Starting off -no issues. Although there have been moments of trepidation, I’ve found myself going from a standstill to rolling along without even thinking about it, on the flat, up quite steep slopes, and on various surfaces.

Just riding -no issues, apart from the aforementioned problem with the varifocals.

Low speed obstacle avoidance -eg getting through barriers and bollards, keeping clear of pedestrians on shared paths etc. This has been much better than expected, partly I think because the front wheel is further back than on my LWB bikes making for a smaller turning circle.

Stopping. Well the brakes are very good, and the weight distribution is more even than with a LWB bike. I have a feeling though that if something decides to let go, things might happen much more quickly than on a LWB, with less time to try to recover.

Remote side stand extender. This works very well. It feels part of the bike now.

There are some issues related to the seat recline though. I’m going to look into extending the adjustment to be more upright, maybe make some brackets, then I’ll see where I go from there.

I was feeling a bit down before I went for that ride, and felt much better afterwards. It just goes to show, even a less-than-brilliant-ride is much better than no ride.

Distance 10.92 miles. Max speed 21.9 mph. Average 5.9 mph. According to Garmin.
Ascent 325 ft. According to Bikehike
 
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a.twiddler

Veteran
Recumbent Ride
13/11/24

After my last ride I decided to do something about the excessive seat recline of the Grasshopper.
I fitted a slotted spacer and attached some other bits from my bits box to the seat back mounting.

Today I went out for a test ride to see if it made a difference.

It certainly made a difference when I sat on it. I gathered my stuff together and went out through the back gate. I wheeled it to the road and set off to the left, downhill. Being more upright made the reach to the bars fractionally shorter and the bike had a different feel to it. After the easy downhill the road flattened then began the steady climb up Moors Lane. I continued the mile or so to where it meets Swanlow Lane. A little short of the junction I did a u turn, noticing the different feel and turning a little wide. I had to stop and paddle round the last bit. Hmm. Going to have to practice that.

Then I set off downhill, hoping to get up a bit more speed than the 15 mph I usually reach here. All went well until I saw a parked car on the other side of the road. The driver of a silver SUV coming the other way stopped and patiently waited, then as I drew near decided to pull out and pass it, causing me to brake. Pillock. Due to this, the freewheel test was a bit inconclusive.

A little further on I turned into an estate road leading to one of the paths I’d become acquainted with during my spell of doing “gentle walks on wheels”. After getting over various nadgery pavements I got on the path, soon being enclosed by the canyon walls of tall garden fencing. I came to a road with a lowered pavement on my side, went across, bumped carefully up a low kerb and on to another path. More tall fencing, a couple of dog walkers, then I came across an access to an estate road on the left. I passed through a barrier, paddling through, though in hindsight I could have ridden through, bumped down a kerb then on to a road where I turned right. Left at the next junction, then a bit further on right into a road that led to my drive. I got on to my drive and rode up to my side gate. A few days ago I’d confirmed that the Grasshopper would go through my side gate. I’d unlocked it before I went out and so I was able to ride up to it, turn the handle and push the bike in.

While I was in the mood, I adjusted the handlebars fractionally. The boom could have benefited from being another cm out but adjusting that is a bit more involved, needing to unship the chain from the front sprocket and making sure that the BB spindle stays horizontal when tightening up. I would do that when I had a bit more time.

Distance 2.04 miles. Max speed 17.4 mph. Average 6.5 mph. According to Garmin.
Ascent 47 ft Though it always feels like more, here. According to Bikehike.
 
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a.twiddler

Veteran
Recumbent Ride
Doughnut Run on the Grasshopper.
14/11/24


A slightly longer ride with some uphills to see what difference the seat adjustment makes. I grabbed my gear, went out through the gate, crossed the road and set off to the right.

It’s a curious thing, this starting off on a USS recumbent bike. There’s always a certain amount of pre launch tension, but having decided to go, it’s an almost instantaneous transition from not-rolling to rolling in most situations, even if not in the ideal gear for starting off. All you can see ahead are your feet going round, your knees going up and down, and parts of your legs as they move, with no stem or bars to impede your view. Then you get up some speed (never enough, it seems), and work up to a gear in which you can pedal comfortably.

It was uphill in this direction, until I reached the downhill to Swanlow Lane. I came to the uphill traffic lights and took the right hand lane. By the time I got near the lights they’d been green for a while and I expected them to change any second so as there was no traffic about I went for a lowered pavement on the right and followed it round the junction. When the road was clear I crossed over and became part of the traffic again. Left and downhill, negotiating the chicanes caused by lazy parkers leaving their cars on the left hand side of the road when they have driveways. Nevertheless, despite oncoming traffic I was able to let it roll freely downhill without even having to brake for a mini roundabout, though I covered the levers just in case.

Then it was through some lights on green, turned into an entrance to the right, across a car park. Past the new location of the war memorials, then along a path between some hoardings and barriers. Two girls were walking along here. One said, “Is that a bike?” “Yes”, I replied. I got off and walked with it to the nearby Greggs inside the precinct and locked it to a barrier. There are screened off areas due to continuing work inside the precinct, and the walkways are narrow.

My mission today was to collect a particular type of sugared doughnut from Greggs for Mrs T to take with her while child minding our grandson. He’s been ill recently and it is one of the few things he’ll eat at the moment. There was a long queue but I got to the counter in the end. I collected a box of doughnuts and thought I could justify having one of their sausage rolls since I’d cycled.

Out again, I unlocked the bike and turned it round in the doorway of the vacant shop next door. I looked up and saw that it was the old Wilko’s, with the sign still in place, which made me feel rather sad.

I wheeled the bike out into the open air. There were some memorial benches near the war memorials so I headed for them. Unfortunately they were wet with recent rain. I’d got off by this time, and I’d noticed that the stand had rotated a little as I leaned the bike on it. I’d wondered how long it would withstand the fairly linear pull of the cable mechanism. Fortunately I had a cunning plan in hand. There are two bolt sized lightening holes in the stand plate, one each side of the fixing bolt hole. I will just need to mark the stand to match one of them, then drill and tap for a suitable bolt to stop it turning in future. I straightened the stand alignment, folded it, then sat on the bike to eat my sausage roll. It was surprisingly comfortable sitting there in the low seat.

A former work colleague walked by with two dogs. One of them spotted the sausage roll and began to howl pitifully. I gave a wave and she came over. The dog fixed my sausage roll with a stare, still whimpering, while the other one took no notice. “I didn’t recognise you there” she said. “Not many people do”, I said, “They’re usually too busy looking at the bike”. I thought that unless I was actually on the road, they probably thought it was some sort of mobility aid. Which it actually is. I can get a lot further on a bike than I could if I was walking. While my former work colleague was regaling me with news about other former work colleagues, and some I’d never met, I finished my sausage roll and the dog started howling again. “Oh, never mind him, he gets plenty to eat at home” she said. We said our goodbyes, and she went on her way.

I took a couple of photos
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then set off on my way home. Between the two memorials, across the car park, to the main road where I turned right. I headed for the town centre lights, then just before them turned left to ride up the long leafy path to the top of the hill.

I still can’t say whether it’s me or the bike but it was slow, though not difficult, progress up the hill, and there was no slipping or sliding. There were some road works signs taking up a good part of the pavement near the top of the hill and one of them caused me to get uncomfortably close to the busy traffic on the road, but I got through the gap easily enough.

I followed the path round at the top of the hill and got on to Swanlow Lane. I’d hoped that after the experience of the front mudguard rubbing the tyre and holding me back on the last ride I’d fly along here, but it felt like riding through treacle. Maybe I’m just out of condition. Need to get out and do some proper trips.

Anyhoo, I reached the lights on Townfields Road, sailed through on green, and pedalled furiously to get some speed up for my uphill turn off. Unfortunately a driver was dawdling across the junction and I had to slow down and trundle up in low gear. I got home, got through my back gate and put the bike away. Mission accomplished, doughnuts duly delivered.

Distance 3.01 miles. Max speed 19.6 mph. Average speed 6.1 mph. According to Garmin.
104 ft. According to Bikehike.
 
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a.twiddler

a.twiddler

Veteran
Recumbent Ride
26/11/24
Grasshopper to Little Budworth.


A nice sunny afternoon, though cool. I wore my Aldi orange windproof/allegedly waterproof jacket today. This has travelled miles with me “just in case” and even though I’ve had it for years, it’s still functional. As another concession to the arrival of winter I wore a jeep cap, a sort of beanie with a peak. I brought my prescription sunglasses too though on a day like today with a bright low sun, the contrast between it and shade under trees is quite high, so I started off with my clear ones.

I set off left and downhill out of my back gate and was soon on the road to Darnhall bridge. The low sun was positively dazzling.

I soon found another drawback to the seat recline on the Grasshopper. Even though I’ve modified it so it can now be more upright than originally intended, with a low sun you can pull a cap peak low down to act as a sunshade. If you wear specs, however, you can only pull a peak down so far. With the more upright seats of the Linear and Spirit it was not a problem, but with the greater recline of the Grasshopper I had to ride with my head upright, chin on chest, or alternatively hold a hand out as a shade. Things improved as I plunged into the gloom surrounding Darnhall bridge but I was forced to stop and put on my sunspecs after I’d climbed up the other side. I noticed, too that I hit bottom gear on the way up. I didn’t fancy my chances of getting up the other side on the way back as it’s longer and steeper.

On I went, intermittently blinded by the sun. There were a lot of large SUVs parked about, with their occupants standing in groups or peering over the hedges. Some event on? Even though dazzled, I could see that my speed was something ridiculous, despite the effort I was putting in. As I neared the turning for Hickhurst Lane, many of the vehicles got moving, mostly in the opposite direction to me.

A couple of horse riders were moving slowly in the same direction as I was, and I waited to see which route they took. I’d originally intended to go straight on to Wettenhall but I didn’t fancy several more miles of blinding sun. I was relieved when they went straight on. It didn’t take much to make me change my route to have the sun on my left or behind me by going right on to Hickhurst Lane.

My speed was still low. Was it me? Was it the bike? I certainly felt that my other two recumbent bikes did better here, but that was before I’d had Covid, then what the M.O.s thought was Pericarditis but now may have been something else, but they don’t know what so maybe I had a month without any proper cycling when I might have continued, and not been in my current flaccid state. Going for another scan soon! Maybe I shouldn’t even be cycling now, but no one has actually said not to.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be related to the seat recline. Following my experiments with the Sinner trike, just a few degrees less recline gave me a noticeable improvement in climbing ability and a bit more oomph on the flat. Despite my efforts to make the Grasshopper seat back more vertical, and that I've got used to it, it's still more reclined than the final iteration of the Sinner seat was, and due to the seat design, it's unlikely to be able to be improved much more.

It’s not flat here, slightly undulating, and the trend is uphill towards Eaton so coming the other way is much more enjoyable. The only way to really find out is to ride one of the others on the same route. I’d really hoped that this bike would have shown some obvious speed advantages over the other two by now, on a more leisure oriented ride like this one rather than going shopping etc as before. Of course it’s easy to blame the bike rather than the power unit but this bike has some features which I find inconvenient that a bit of extra speed might go some way to tipping the balance in its favour. I'm definitely not feeling the love today.

I’d seen several tractors on the road by now, and after turning right into King’s Lane a guy on a heavy duty agricultural quad bike overtook me then a little later a bright yellow mobile crane came the other way. I was also passed by a solitary sporty cyclist.

It was still hard going until I came to a dip when I was able to get into a higher gear and charge at it but there was a definite uphill following that then a short steep pitch that had me in bottom gear again. Rather annoying to be in bottom so much. It’s hardly the Gospel Pass!

After that a car with a large caravan squeezed down the narrow lane though I didn’t need to stop. A bit of flat, then right at a T junction downhill into Rushton Lane.

This was a bit more like it. Rapidly rushing down Rushton Lane, down the twisty road with the ancient bricks of Oulton Park’s perimeter wall rushing by redly on the right, curving in harmony with the road. Beyond, some event was on, with the squeal of tyres and the revving of engines rising and falling.

All too soon, the road reached a dip, levelled slightly then began to climb. Going well at first, pedalling through the gears, then a steep stretch near the top. I was in bottom gear again. I struggled on, then ground to a stop.

Going to have to fit a smaller chainwheel! The Spirit and Grasshopper share the same 20” rear wheel and SRAM Dual Drive set up so what works for the Spirit ought to work for the Grasshopper. I stopped to get my breath back, accompanied by the steady thump of my heart, before I got going again. Over the top, right at the next T junction past the entrance to Oulton Park, a brief stop at the Little Budworth village sign for a photo then on to the village for another one by the church.
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I took the windproof jacket off and changed to clear specs before making the most of the steep downhill past the old mill. The climb up the other side wasn’t too bad until it steepened and I was in bottom gear again to get over the summit. The same cyclist who’d passed me earlier went past and said, “Hi”.

I came to a crossroads and turned right. I was soon at another crossroads, this time with the A54. I was faced with two choices. a) Turn right and take the shorter route home, partially downhill but mixing it with the traffic. b) Go straight on and take the longer route home part of which includes a long uphill. Since the bike is lacking in low gears but has an undiminished recumbent factor which ought to keep the traffic at bay, I opted for a).

I was so keen to get on to the road between vehicles that I broke the golden rule and heaved on the bars while setting off. Inevitably the safety device kicked in and I found myself riding in fast traffic with one bar up and one bar down. I gingerly found somewhere to stop and levelled them out. Then back into the traffic. Despite my best efforts I couldn’t get speed up, just 6-8 mph. Once I reached the downhill stretch it improved, but it was not pleasant. Fortunately most vehicles held back before overtaking with space. I pulled in a couple of times to let vehicles past and finally reached a roundabout where I was able to turn off. I stopped for a breather before climbing a short hill then found myself on Delamere St with its undulations.

Some more relaxed progress with more speed at times to the other end where I followed a queue of traffic to the A54 roundabout and got there in time to make use of a gap in traffic. Very slow going on Swanlow Lane, through the lights on Townfields Road, into my uphill turn off and to my back gate.

Compared to my last 10-odd mile ride I felt drained by the time I got home. I checked the wheels and they spun freely so there was no obvious cause for the slow progress. I didn’t feel that I’d enjoyed the ride at the time, but felt better later about having done it.

Sitting here writing it up the next day, disappointment was the main feeling. I’d actually hoped to manage at least 20 miles on such an unexpectedly pleasant day. Then I totalled up the mileage I’d done since I bought it on 6/9/24 which was a mere 43.5 miles! Mainly down to health issues. In the right weather conditions and on the right route I would have laughed that off in an afternoon, a few months ago. So early days yet.

An incentive to doing more mileage would be to get at least one, preferably two gears lower than the current bottom gear. The standard front chainring has 46T, the one on the Spirit has been replaced with a 38T. As the rear wheel set up is the same, on them both, fitting a 38T would give a lowest of 17.25”, highest of 89.11” compared with the current range of about 21” -100”. 100” is nice to have, but nobody ever complained about having not enough high gears whereas low gears? Unless you live in the Netherlands, of course. So an imminent project looms.

Distance 11.71 miles. Max speed 22.9 mph. Average 6.3 mph. According to Garmin.

Ascent 292 ft. According to Bikehike.
 
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a.twiddler

a.twiddler

Veteran
Recumbent Ride
26/11/24
Grasshopper to Little Budworth.


A nice sunny afternoon, though cool. I wore my Aldi orange windproof/allegedly waterproof jacket today. This has travelled miles with me “just in case” and even though I’ve had it for years, it’s still functional. As another concession to the arrival of winter I wore a jeep cap, a sort of beanie with a peak. I brought my prescription sunglasses too though on a day like today with a bright low sun, the contrast between it and shade under trees is quite high, so I started off with my clear ones.

I set off left and downhill out of my back gate and was soon on the road to Darnhall bridge. The low sun was positively dazzling.

I soon found another drawback to the seat recline on the Grasshopper. Even though I’ve modified it so it can now be more upright than originally intended, with a low sun you can pull a cap peak low down to act as a sunshade. If you wear specs, however, you can only pull a peak down so far. With the more upright seats of the Linear and Spirit it was not a problem, but with the greater recline of the Grasshopper I had to ride with my head upright, chin on chest, or alternatively hold a hand out as a shade. Things improved as I plunged into the gloom surrounding Darnhall bridge but I was forced to stop and put on my sunspecs after I’d climbed up the other side. I noticed, too that I hit bottom gear on the way up. I didn’t fancy my chances of getting up the other side on the way back as it’s longer and steeper.

On I went, intermittently blinded by the sun. There were a lot of large SUVs parked about, with their occupants standing in groups or peering over the hedges. Some event on? Even though dazzled, I could see that my speed was something ridiculous, despite the effort I was putting in. As I neared the turning for Hickhurst Lane, many of the vehicles got moving, mostly in the opposite direction to me.

A couple of horse riders were moving slowly in the same direction as I was, and I waited to see which route they took. I’d originally intended to go straight on to Wettenhall but I didn’t fancy several more miles of blinding sun. I was relieved when they went straight on. It didn’t take much to make me change my route to have the sun on my left or behind me by going right on to Hickhurst Lane.

My speed was still low. Was it me? Was it the bike? I certainly felt that my other two recumbent bikes did better here, but that was before I’d had Covid, then what the M.O.s thought was Pericarditis but now may have been something else, but they don’t know what so maybe I had a month without any proper cycling when I might have continued, and not been in my current flaccid state. Going for another scan soon! Maybe I shouldn’t even be cycling now, but no one has actually said not to.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be related to the seat recline. Following my experiments with the Sinner trike, just a few degrees less recline gave me a noticeable improvement in climbing ability and a bit more oomph on the flat. Despite my efforts to make the Grasshopper seat back more vertical, and that I've got used to it, it's still more reclined than the final iteration of the Sinner seat was, and due to the seat design, it's unlikely to be able to be improved much more.

It’s not flat here, slightly undulating, and the trend is uphill towards Eaton so coming the other way is much more enjoyable. The only way to really find out is to ride one of the others on the same route. I’d really hoped that this bike would have shown some obvious speed advantages over the other two by now, on a more leisure oriented ride like this one rather than going shopping etc as before. Of course it’s easy to blame the bike rather than the power unit but this bike has some features which I find inconvenient that a bit of extra speed might go some way to tipping the balance in its favour. I'm definitely not feeling the love today.

I’d seen several tractors on the road by now, and after turning right into King’s Lane a guy on a heavy duty agricultural quad bike overtook me then a little later a bright yellow mobile crane came the other way. I was also passed by a solitary sporty cyclist.

It was still hard going until I came to a dip when I was able to get into a higher gear and charge at it but there was a definite uphill following that then a short steep pitch that had me in bottom gear again. Rather annoying to be in bottom so much. It’s hardly the Gospel Pass!

After that a car with a large caravan squeezed down the narrow lane though I didn’t need to stop. A bit of flat, then right at a T junction downhill into Rushton Lane.

This was a bit more like it. Rapidly rushing down Rushton Lane, down the twisty road with the ancient bricks of Oulton Park’s perimeter wall rushing by redly on the right, curving in harmony with the road. Beyond, some event was on, with the squeal of tyres and the revving of engines rising and falling.

All too soon, the road reached a dip, levelled slightly then began to climb. Going well at first, pedalling through the gears, then a steep stretch near the top. I was in bottom gear again. I struggled on, then ground to a stop.

Going to have to fit a smaller chainwheel! The Spirit and Grasshopper share the same 20” rear wheel and SRAM Dual Drive set up so what works for the Spirit ought to work for the Grasshopper. I stopped to get my breath back, accompanied by the steady thump of my heart, before I got going again. Over the top, right at the next T junction past the entrance to Oulton Park, a brief stop at the Little Budworth village sign for a photo then on to the village for another one by the church.
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I took the windproof jacket off and changed to clear specs before making the most of the steep downhill past the old mill. The climb up the other side wasn’t too bad until it steepened and I was in bottom gear again to get over the summit. The same cyclist who’d passed me earlier went past and said, “Hi”.

I came to a crossroads and turned right. I was soon at another crossroads, this time with the A54. I was faced with two choices. a) Turn right and take the shorter route home, partially downhill but mixing it with the traffic. b) Go straight on and take the longer route home part of which includes a long uphill. Since the bike is lacking in low gears but has an undiminished recumbent factor which ought to keep the traffic at bay, I opted for a).

I was so keen to get on to the road between vehicles that I broke the golden rule and heaved on the bars while setting off. Inevitably the safety device kicked in and I found myself riding in fast traffic with one bar up and one bar down. I gingerly found somewhere to stop and levelled them out. Then back into the traffic. Despite my best efforts I couldn’t get speed up, just 6-8 mph. Once I reached the downhill stretch it improved, but it was not pleasant. Fortunately most vehicles held back before overtaking with space. I pulled in a couple of times to let vehicles past and finally reached a roundabout where I was able to turn off. I stopped for a breather before climbing a short hill then found myself on Delamere St with its undulations.

Some more relaxed progress with more speed at times to the other end where I followed a queue of traffic to the A54 roundabout and got there in time to make use of a gap in traffic. Very slow going on Swanlow Lane, through the lights on Townfields Road, into my uphill turn off and to my back gate.

Compared to my last 10-odd mile ride I felt drained by the time I got home. I checked the wheels and they spun freely so there was no obvious cause for the slow progress. I didn’t feel that I’d enjoyed the ride at the time, but felt better later about having done it.

Sitting here writing it up the next day, disappointment was the main feeling. I’d actually hoped to manage at least 20 miles on such an unexpectedly pleasanr day. Then I totalled up the mileage I’d done since I bought it on 6/9/24 which was a mere 43.5 miles! Mainly down to health issues. In the right weather conditions and on the right route I would have laughed that off in an afternoon, a few months ago. So early days yet.

An incentive to doing more mileage would be to get at least one, preferably two gears lower than the current bottom gear. The standard front chainring has 46T, the one on the Spirit has been replaced with a 38T. As the rear wheel set up is the same, on them both, fitting a 38T would give a lowest of 17.25”, highest of 89.11” compared with the current range of about 21” -100”. 100” is nice to have, but nobody ever complained about having not enough high gears whereas low gears? Unless you live in the Netherlands, of course. So an imminent project looms.

Distance 11.71 miles. Max speed 22.9 mph. Average 6.3 mph. According to Garmin.

Ascent 292 ft. According to Bikehike.
 
I enjoy reading the ride reports and seeing the photos.



I've found that it's easy to lose 'recumbent muscles' so I try to ride mine every day (often on the turbo trainer) with just the odd day on a 'normal' bike. Perhaps you just need to build up the miles and your strength again.



I think the Grasshopper and other HPV models, including the Speed Machine, have a reputation for not being the fastest climbing recumbents.



Your seat is quite upright for a hard shell - perhaps you're at the point where the mesh seat would give a better riding position.



It takes a bit of getting used to, but I've found that reclining a seat as far as possible is when a recumbent starts to perform, especially if you have the legs to power it. Of course an extremely reclined seat brings a lot of downsides, including potentially dicey handling, especially on slow, steep hills, and, as you discovered, keeping the elements out of your eyes\glasses.



I think a slightly reduced seat to pedal distance can help me on a recumbent.



Cold weather is always slower.



A change of tyres can give a good performance boost if going from a draggy model to a performance one.



I've nearly done myself in by riding with a brake which is stuck on, but it sounds like you've checked all that kind of stuff.
 
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a.twiddler

a.twiddler

Veteran
My best experience so far has been with bikes with more upright mesh seats which I find comfortable and perhaps I've been spoilt with the way a more upright seat helps on the sort of mild off road stuff that I like, and cycling uphill on iffy surfaces. There's probably a reason that the bikes with this feature have stayed in my garage while others have come and gone. Maybe the LWB and CLWB design which they have suits me better, too. Since I can only dream about doing 15 mph on the flat without a following wind perhaps I'm not the ideal candidate for a laid back seat as the aero effect only makes itself felt above that speed.

My previous ride ended with a draggy wheel (due to accumulated fallen leaves) holding me back and I was relieved to find that explanation. This time round, there's no such reason. Is the Grasshopper really such a lorry that it feels slow even compared to my Linear and HPV Spirit, both not seen as particularly speedy machines? The main difference seems to be seat recline.

I had a Sinner trike which came with a very reclined seat, but I found that after some experimentation and bodgery getting it pretty upright transformed the way it climbed, and made things easier on the flat. I've got the trike thing out of my system for now, and it's gone to someone who appreciates it, so I'm not unhappy about the experience. I've already reduced the recline of the Grasshopper seat with some home made brackets but it needs some more, and I don't think it'll really go much more upright due to the design. If a HPV mesh seat were to turn up in size small, I might give it a go, assuming it would actually fit without modification, but I suspect that it would still be pretty reclined. With my usual budget, I could probably buy a used recumbent for what HPV would want for a new seat.

In the meantime, I'll lower the gearing to match the other bikes I've got and see how I get on from there.
 
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