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Reasons not to wear helmets
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I could have guessed you'd have the stat. Care to share the source for checking?
TRL PPR420. Cycle Helmet Wearing in 2008.
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Vain though it is the main reason I do not wear a helmet is because I thoroughly dislike how they look. Most of them look like some sort of B movie alien headgear. The only ones that look half ok (and it really isn't much of an improvement are the b.m.x. type things that are more just like a lightweight version of the old motorcycle helmets. If I were to wear any it would be one like this but are they anygood for everyday cycling?
Does anybody know of any cycle helmets that don,t look like some dayglo nightmare? Really the plainer the better for me and the less elaborate and exotic looking. I really don't want to look like I've got someones art project on my head?
Does anybody know of any cycle helmets that don,t look like some dayglo nightmare? Really the plainer the better for me and the less elaborate and exotic looking. I really don't want to look like I've got someones art project on my head?
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Blimey - you must look a right plonker in a lid!!!!
I've edited this for you - works well both ways I think
I've edited this for you - works well both ways I think
Oh FFS.
Dear Mr Ravenbait, Red Light and any and all others querying why there are interminable threads about helmets -- so many, indeed that we need an entire sub-forum to deal with them.
WE, THE MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM WHO DO WEAR HELMETS, DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU DO OR DO NOT PUT ON YOUR HEAD. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CAP or GRADE 1. WE WILL NOT TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU. WE WILL NOT TELL YOU THAT YOU SHOULD WEAR ONE.
Please pay careful attention to that last part. We will not say you are stupid for choosing no protection. We will not tell you to put it on you plonker. There are many, many things we will not do, all of which are designed to let you exercise your freedom of choice to cycle in your gear of choice, whether that be a buff, a lid, a sedated cat or half a watermelon.
However. If you should feel the need or urge to tell us that we should not wear one, that we would be better off not wearing one, that we are morons for wearing one, that our decision to wear one results from having been dropped on the head as a baby or having already suffered brain damage through cycle-related head-injury; if you tell us that any accident resulting in persistent vegetative state even though a helmet was worn will be our own damn fault; if you tell us that we owe it to ourselves and our loved ones to not protect ourselves by not taking any and all precautions possible because cycling is dangerous; should you inform us that only people who do not wear helmets should be taken seriously or that helmets are the WORST THINGS EVER ZOMGFFSSBBQ!!!eleventy!!!...
Then, oh then. Then we shall turn around and say, in rather more words than this: prove it. And yes, it is up to you to do so. You are the ones informing us that we are wrong in our decision. All we are doing is asking you to justify that assertion.
In the rational world it is a case of disproving the null hypothesis. The null hypothesis is that bare heads offer little to no benefit at all. This hypothesis has not been disproven. If you decide not to wear one anyway, then good for you. Yay and rah and waving of the little congratulatory flag. Do not, however, by outright statement or implication, suggest that we who decide differently are wrong, idiotic or asking for it.
Because we're not. We have simply come to a different result in our calculation of the risk:benefit ratio and, oddly enough, the population-level studies largely indicate that we're in the right ballpark. If you wish to justify your decision to not wear a helmet, then we'd expect a similar level of evidence, not, as has been provided so far because I feel I'm right and I trust my feelings more than some poncy scientist who just does sums, innit.
Sam
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I think you failed to read it all the way through before editing, because your revised version is nonsense at several points.
Far be it from me to suggest that the pro-vs-anti sides in this debate can be distinguished by how much research each is willing to do, but "failed to read it all the way through" pretty much sums up a lot of the arguments around here
Along with simple negation of whatever has been said rather than any original contribution.
I like the 'what do scientists know?' line of argument myself!
But, in fairness, I know that when I was reading the research etc on the subject I didn't always understand it the minutiae and relied to a large extent on the 'plain English' abstract, summary or conclusion. I did read with an open mind though because I was looking for an answer for my own questions. I wasn't looking for confirmation of what I might have intuitively believed.
In answer to Red Light's earlier question, I couldn't find a helmet to fit my square yellow head.... so I bought a stock Giro and panel beated it into shape. Do you think that will have compromised its peformance?
STOP discussing compulsion it is very very naughty!
Some people feel uncomfortable with it - it has therefore been bannedfrom any discussion
In answer to Red Light's earlier question, I couldn't find a helmet to fit my square yellow head.... so I bought a stock Giro and panel beated it into shape. Do you think that will have compromised its peformance?
I could have got one from stock!
You really are boring Dan
The "ignore" button is there for your benefit.
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There's a part of me grinning manically at saying this, Sam, but I wonder why you've worded the opening line like that. I want to sign up to it too, although I do sometimes wear a lid.
That's okay. So do I. I didn't want to confuse anyone by opening up the gist of my despairing wail to arguments of "but if you wear one sometimes, why not all the time?" or "Well if you wear one sometimes then you MUST believe they are of benefit!"
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