Police fining cyclist for breaking the law..

[Angelfishsolo]

I don't see why it shouldn't be compulsory, lots of stuff is compulsory at school and most of it is pretty useless, and much less fun than riding a bike about for an hour or two

The biggest problem I see is not every child has a bike. If the school has to supply bikes they are responcible for maintenance et al and I see many barriers to this.

 

[Rapples]

I wouldn't mind it being compulsory either, but on the other hand I don't want playing the nose flute to be compulsory so on balance I'd like to leave it up to the parents, not the state

 

[Rapples]

The biggest problem I see is not every child has a bike. If the school has to supply bikes they are responcible for maintenance et al and I see many barriers to this.

Ah, you see that pesky little Safety Elf gets everywhere, what did they do before he made himself known

 

[gaz]

This is why I cycle in the same way as I drive. I queue in traffic, wait at lights, give way at junctions etc.

Are you suggesting the cyclists that don't cycle as they would drive don't queue, wait at lights or give way at junctions?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

We all know what this compulsory stuff does to children. I went to a church school, and it was compulsory to go to church every Thursday, never been since leaving (apart from formal events), we had to write and say prayers. (never prayed since).

Other things which were made compulsory, cooking at school, never cooked anything more than pasta since.

Making things compulsory makes children want to rebel. Simples.

So you have neves used maths or the written English language?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Are you suggesting the cyclists that don't cycle as they would drive don't queue, wait at lights or give way at junctions?

I am yes. Based upon what I have read here and seen on video clips and in the flesh.

 

[Rapples]

Are you suggesting the cyclists that don't cycle as they would drive don't queue, wait at lights or give way at junctions?

I thought you lived in London

 

[400bhp]

But you don't have any alternatives to not using them, I wish you good luck going out in the real world not using English, or maths.

Plenty of people can't read, write or do simple maths. The number of such people is growing, not diminishing. You don't have to look far for poor spelling/grammar on here.

There's a large proportion of stupid people - these will include those that don't understand that RLJ is illegal.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Plenty of people can't read, write or do simple maths. The number of such people is growing, not diminishing. You don't have to look far for poor spelling/grammar on here.

There's a large proportion of stupid people - these will include those that don't understand that RLJ is illegal.

Beat me to it

 

[roadrunner20]

question, do you get fined for going through a red light that has been red for over 6 mins long???

I ask this as theres a red light near me in some industry estate which i believe the red lights are either broken or just very long due to on the late nights all the HGVs all come out so they try longer lights to stop mass traffic build ups....

sadly during the rest of the day ie 12 hours its deserted so these 6+min lights seems retarded waiting for considering its a wide open space.

essex road industry one....p.s i have seen a community support car go through it more than once

 

[Angelfishsolo]

But you don't have any alternatives to not using them, I wish you good luck going out in the real world not using English, or maths.

Whereas cycling, people can choose to walk, get the bus or even car.

Your argument was against compulsory learning. These examples show the flaw in your argument

 

[Angelfishsolo]

question, do you get fined for going through a red light that has been red for over 6 mins long???

I ask this as theres a red light near me in some industry estate which i believe the red lights are either broken or just very long due to on the late nights all the HGVs all come out so they try longer lights to stop mass traffic build ups....

sadly during the rest of the day ie 12 hours its deserted so these 6+min lights seems retarded waiting for considering its a wide open space.

essex road industry one....p.s i have seen a community support car go through it more than once

I would suggest that you talk to your LA. IIRC 15 mins is deemed as a broken light. Please check though as my brain is very foggy at the moment.

 

[gaz]

I am yes. Based upon what I have read here and seen on video clips and in the flesh.

Based on what I experience on a day to day basis in London where i come across hundreds of cyclists. Most of them do not cycle as they would drive, and most of them don't queue (very little reason to do so in London), most of them wait at red lights and most of them give way when they should do. There is the odd Silly Cyclist

I thought you lived in London

I do, and there are lots and lots of different types of cyclists, not everyone wants to be or can be a 'vehicular cyclist'

question, do you get fined for going through a red light that has been red for over 6 mins long???

I ask this as theres a red light near me in some industry estate which i believe the red lights are either broken or just very long due to on the late nights all the HGVs all come out so they try longer lights to stop mass traffic build ups....

sadly during the rest of the day ie 12 hours its deserted so these 6+min lights seems retarded waiting for considering its a wide open space.

essex road industry one....p.s i have seen a community support car go through it more than once

I you go through it safely then that is fine. The lights appear to be broken and thus you treated them as such and move through them safely. There are no grounds to be fined or prosecuted for such an action. 6mins is an excessively length of time to wait for a traffic light to change.

 

[apollo179]

Plenty of people can't read, write or do simple maths. The number of such people is growing, not diminishing. You don't have to look far for poor spelling/grammar on here.

There's a large proportion of stupid people - these will include those that don't understand that RLJ is illegal.

+1
The cycling boffins on this forum are not representative of the majority of cyclists out there in the real world.

 

[martint235]

No, and I'm very surprised to hear that you have. Where is it? I strongly suspect it has no meaning at all in law

Dan, I haven't. I'm just making the point that unless it is then it will tend to be an advisory sign. All signs corresponding to "MUST" in the highway code have a red boundary.