Police fining cyclist for breaking the law..

[roadrash]

IF I WAS TO TAKE UP CLAY PIGEON SHOOTING AT A FARM 1 MILE AWAY AND ON SUNDAY MORNING PROCEDED DOWN THE STREET WITH A LOADED SHOTGUN UNDER MY ARM,AND UPON SEEING ME ,MR POLICEMAN THINKS WELL WELL THAT ISNT SUCH AGOOD IDEA,ONCE IVE EXPLAINED THAT I HAVN,T READ UP ON THE LAWS SHOULD HE THEN TAKE OFF THE CUFFS ,OPEN THE CAR DOOR AND BID ME GOOD DAY AS I CARRY ON MY JOURNEY
NO THOUGHT NOT

 

[Rapples]

IF I WAS TO TAKE UP CLAY PIGEON SHOOTING AT A FARM 1 MILE AWAY AND ON SUNDAY MORNING PROCEDED DOWN THE STREET WITH A LOADED SHOTGUN UNDER MY ARM,AND UPON SEEING ME ,MR POLICEMAN THINKS WELL WELL THAT ISNT SUCH AGOOD IDEA,ONCE IVE EXPLAINED THAT I HAVN,T READ UP ON THE LAWS SHOULD HE THEN TAKE OFF THE CUFFS ,OPEN THE CAR DOOR AND BID ME GOOD DAY AS I CARRY ON MY JOURNEY
NO THOUGHT NOT

Don't shout my good man

Ownership of a shotgun or firearm requires a licence,as does driving car. Knowledge of the laws regarding ownership and use is a conditon of that licence.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

You do not need a license to buy a sword but I can understand that it would be covered by the knife or offencive weapons laws.

 

[roadrash]

Don't shout my good man

Ownership of a shotgun or firearm requires a licence,as does driving car. Knowledge of the laws regarding ownership and use is a conditon of that licence.

didnt realise caps lock was on lol but that may be a new can of worms ,and before everyone jumps on my back im speaking hyperthetically does anyone think there should be compulsary basic training before going on the road like the old c.p.t at school

 

[fossyant]

Erm, so who can summarise 8 pages ? - I've been out in Manchester for a few sherbets.

PS I did educate a colleague. (I was a passenger - she kindly dropped me off on a bus route, just before it turned up (we passed it).

She's not very cyclist friendly. "Oh I do hate when they do that" - me "Oh what jumping the red light", her "no avoiding puddles". "Ah", I said "thats how I went crashing into the back of a taxi a couple of weeks ago (I don't hide my cycling accidents - my fault or otherwise), if you know the road it's usually OK to ride through them, but you can't see what's below them, that caused me to bounce into that taxi" - "Oh right, now I know why"

PS also told her to turn her AC on if the car steams up when it's warm and wet people sit in the car. She didn't know it would de-humidify it very quickly ! It was hissing it down this evening !

 

[apollo179]

Erm, so who can summarise 8 pages ? - I've been out in Manchester for a few sherbets.

PS I did educate a colleague. (I was a passenger - she kindly dropped me off on a bus route, just before it turned up (we passed it).

She's not very cyclist friendly. "Oh I do hate when they do that" - me "Oh what jumping the red light", her "no avoiding puddles". "Ah", I said "thats how I went crashing into the back of a taxi a couple of weeks ago (I don't hide my cycling accidents - my fault or otherwise), if you know the road it's usually OK to ride through them, but you can't see what's below them, that caused me to bounce into that taxi" - "Oh right, now I know why"

PS also told her to turn her AC on if the car steams up when it's warm and wet people sit in the car. She didn't know it would de-humidify it very quickly ! It was hissing it down this evening !

No request or offers of coffee ?

 

[Rapples]

does anyone think there should be compulsary basic training before going on the road like the old c.p.t at school

Actually as anti state intervention that I am, I think that is an area where it is worthwhile to educate childen to be safe, but I don't like the compulsory thing

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Actually as anti state intervention that I am, I think that is an area where it is worthwhile to educate childen to be safe, but I don't like the compulsory thing

I would love to see Bikeability Level 1 and 2 taught in schools. I do not however expect it to happen.

 

[Rapples]

True, the Safety Elf wouldn't like it, wot wiv all those helmets and stuff

 

[davefb]

I think this explains it quite well considering it's on a par with the offside rule in football
http://ukcyclerules....ced-stop-zones/

the law bit is bizarre..

and it does seem to contradict the HC explanation...

I wonder if its trying to say that , if you go down the cycle lane, then dont count the second line as the first one just because you've only actually gone past one ?


i assume this is the 'utterly confusing' bit

"(2) Where the road marking shown in diagram 1001.2 has been placed in conjunction with light signals, “stop line” in relation to those light signals means—http://

(a)​

the first stop line, in the case of a vehicle (other than a pedal cycle proceeding in the cycle lane) which has not proceeded beyond that line; or

http://

(b)​

the second stop line, in the case of a vehicle which has proceeded beyond the first stop line or of a pedal cycle proceeding in the cycle lane."

 

[Rapples]

Lost me too, I'll just stick to the roads, and keep out of the cycle paths

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Lost me too, I'll just stick to the roads, and keep out of the cycle paths

This is why I cycle in the same way as I drive. I queue in traffic, wait at lights, give way at junctions etc.

 

[Rapples]

This is why I cycle in the same way as I drive. I queue in traffic, wait at lights, give way at junctions etc.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I find that more often than not this is respected by driver. There will always be knobs of course but then that is true for cyclists as well.

 

[the snail]

Actually as anti state intervention that I am, I think that is an area where it is worthwhile to educate childen to be safe, but I don't like the compulsory thing

I don't see why it shouldn't be compulsory, lots of stuff is compulsory at school and most of it is pretty useless, and much less fun than riding a bike about for an hour or two