Police fining cyclist for breaking the law..

[apollo179]

I would do away with all cycling law and just give the police a "cycling without due care" law to enforce with discretion.
Thereby little 3 year old molly cyling on the pavement isnt breaking the law wheras norman nobrains weaving recklessly down the precinct in his hoodie is - if the police decide it is.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I would do away with all cycling law and just give the police a "cycling without due care" law to enforce with discretion.
Thereby little 3 year old molly cyling on the pavement isnt breaking the law wheras norman nobrains weaving recklessly down the precinct in his hoodie is - if the police decide it is.

I am so glad that you are not in a position to make policy. I fail to see why cyclists should be afforded special rights when on a road (above those we already have, no MOT, no license, no test).

 

[400bhp]

Personally i dont agree that rljing should be illegal for cyclists

Explain please.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Explain please.

Also why just cyclists? Why not include Motorbikes in this as well?

 

[apollo179]

I am so glad that you are not in a position to make policy.

I would have thought a policy of leaving it to the police to do whatever they think best would be right up your street.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I would have thought a policy of leaving it to the police to do whatever they think best would be right up your street.

Not at all. The Police enforce the Laws, they do not make them.

 

[2Loose]

I would do away with all cycling law and just give the police a "cycling without due care" law to enforce with discretion.
Thereby little 3 year old molly cyling on the pavement isnt breaking the law wheras norman nobrains weaving recklessly down the precinct in his hoodie is - if the police decide it is.

So if a PC has had a bad day or doesn't like the look of you, then he\she can trouble you in anyway they see fit? That is exactly we have laws, so that people (should) know where they stand.

So glad intelligent people get to make that choice.

May I ask why you don't feel that the rules about traffic lights shouldn't apply? I am sure other road users who worry about trying to avoid the unpredictable rlj'er could offer a counter argument.

 

[gaz]

Oh Ok. It's just that the sets of M520's I have bought and those my friends have bought came with them. I agree about not being prosecuted over them. Night riding without lights or reflectors however is a different story especially if you are not a in well lit area.

My m520's didn't come with reflectors and neither have the 5 sets of spd sl pedals have. The only ones which do are the ones which are flats one side and clip in other.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

My m520's didn't come with reflectors and neither have the 5 sets of spd sl pedals have. The only ones which do are the ones which are flats one side and clip in other.

Interesting. It seems like it depends where the pedals were purchased. Mine were from CRC.

 

[gaz]

Interesting. It seems like it depends where the pedals were purchased. Mine were from CRC.

As where mine. The packaging won't be different for different shops.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

As where mine. The packaging won't be different for different shops.

Odd. I wonder why the ones me and my mates bought had them then? Anyway it is useful information. Thank you.

 

[apollo179]

So if a PC has had a bad day or doesn't like the look of you, then he\she can trouble you in anyway they see fit? That is exactly we have laws, so that people (should) know where they stand.

So glad intelligent people get to make that choice.

May I ask why you don't feel that the rules about traffic lights shouldn't apply? I am sure other road users who worry about trying to avoid the unpredictable rlj'er could offer a counter argument.

Thats largely how it is anyway.
A "cycling without due care" law would be better that a myriad of laws some enforced and some not that just serves to bring the law into disrepute.
And as is the case allready with any prosecution any unjust cases would (hopefully) get exposed in court.

 

[martint235]

I understand the law regarding pedals and reflectors. However out of curiosity, my cycling shoes have a reflective panel on the back of them. As they are attached to the pedal by clips, do they legally become part of the pedal?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I understand the law regarding pedals and reflectors. However out of curiosity, my cycling shoes have a reflective panel on the back of them. As they are attached to the pedal by clips, do they legally become part of the pedal?

No.

 

[apollo179]

Not at all. The Police enforce the Laws, they do not make them.

You are right - i was basically suggesting where there is grey area it would be preferable to have a clearly discretionary law rather than the present unsatisfatory situation.