Please don't wear helmets*!!

[Lurpak]

We just need to decide if helmets are of any use. It's as simple as that.

 

[Lurpak]

Thanks that's all I needed to know.

 

[david k]

For the record, I have never tried to make anyone wear a helmet

 

[david k]

The op stated that drivers are always at fault, some say only 80% of the time, fact is this is potentially dangerous as it leads cyclists to think they cannot be to blame and may cycle how they like

 

[Glow worm]

 

[Dan B]

For the record, I have never tried to make anyone wear a helmet

except your kids

 

[david k]

except your kids

If I ask my kids to wear a helmet I'm a pro compulsion iand this justifies me being swore at?

Get a grip

 

[classic33]

The op stated that drivers are always at fault, some say only 80% of the time, fact is this is potentially dangerous as it leads cyclists to think they cannot be to blame and may cycle how they like

I wear a full face helmet, still doesn't offer full face protection though. And wether its worn or not doesn't alter how I feel I can ride. It has led to me being pulled for wearing it though.
I think nearly everyone on this thread has at some point, elsewhere on here, said how they feel cyclists should ride when they're on the road.

 

[Tin Pot]

This has been unexpectedly fun. Cheers.

 

[Tin Pot]

Are you deliberately misunderstanding this?

In my experience I would say it's human nature somehow - though I'm not sure precisely which part.

You see/hear something, you interpret it into what you think or want it to mean, stand it up as a strawman, reduce the argument to black and white and argue until you're blue in the face.

All the time wondering why someone doesn't agree with you won't follow the same flawed logic.

Perhaps it's the pattern matching/problem solving part of the brain? Either way it's rarely deliberate, IMO. It's just a kind of mental blindness.

A bit like not seeing cyclists clear as day when you're driving. I suppose.

 

[david k]

Mmmmm. Don't remember that, as I recal my point was I wear one as I believe it's a potential benefit , he doesn't and since I feel it's a benefit for me I also feel it would be a benefit for him, therefore I feel he should but I it's not. Y decision or head so cannot make him

Looks like it's been taken out of context, if it didn't read like that I made an erro

Still no way what so ever should I be swore at and the little followers jump on the band wagon and support it , whilst moaning at doog complaining he is abusive

If you feel swearing at me is fine, then don't complain about doog or run to the mods

As for User13710 supporting double standards and abusive on the grounds she doesn't know me or what was said but I must have asked for it is ridiculous and failure to defend the point of view is confirmation she knows it's wrong and doesn't want to address it

 

[Dan B]

If I ask my kids to wear a helmet I'm a pro compulsion iand this justifies me being swore at?

If you ask your kids to wear a helmet then your claim

For the record, I have never tried to make anyone wear a helmet

is untrue.

I'm not saying anything about whether this makes you "a pro-compulsion", nor about whether that in turn justifies you once having been "swore at" in 2011. I'm just saying, what you said was not true.

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/giro-helmets-huge-appreciation.82379/post-1481623

 

[classic33]

In my experience I would say it's human nature somehow - though I'm not sure precisely which part.

You see/hear something, you interpret it into what you think or want it to mean, stand it up as a strawman, reduce the argument to black and white and argue until you're blue in the face.

All the time wondering why someone doesn't agree with you won't follow the same flawed logic.

Perhaps it's the pattern matching/problem solving part of the brain? Either way it's rarely deliberate, IMO. It's just a kind of mental blindness.

A bit like not seeing cyclists clear as day when you're driving. I suppose.

You forgot the seeing red, when cut up.

 

[david k]

In my experience I would say it's human nature somehow - though I'm not sure precisely which part.

You see/hear something, you interpret it into what you think or want it to mean, stand it up as a strawman, reduce the argument to black and white and argue until you're blue in the face.

All the time wondering why someone doesn't agree with you won't follow the same flawed logic.

Perhaps it's the pattern matching/problem solving part of the brain? Either way it's rarely deliberate, IMO. It's just a kind of mental blindness.

A bit like not seeing cyclists clear as day when you're driving. I suppose.

It's their behaviour that kills not ours, how is that misinterpreted?

 

[Dan B]

You forgot the seeing red, when cut up.

I'm green with envy at your chromatic expertise. Also browned off that I didn't think of that first.