Ok ok point taken

[gb155]

Colin et el, you guys are AMAZING, just a simple question that most would laugh at me for asking but you give me the in-depth stuff I REALLY need

My food buyer is on the case, lets do this, I HOPE to report back with good news SOON !

 

[potsy]

Colin I know what you mean re the satsumas, they do vary from week to week where I get them from.
When they are on form they are a lovely little at work snack, keeps me away from the biscuits and chocolate.

I have just bought some Braeburn apples and a couple of bananas, need to get back to eating healthy again myself, that Jo is a bad influence on me

 

[Zoiders]

I will be honest here and say that I think you know what you need to eat but you are pretending ignorance on the subject in order to delay making a change.

You need to find a staple food that isn't crisps - that could be anything, tuna sandwiches, breakfast cereal, beans on toast, pasta, porridge, rice, potatoes, turnips, green plantain bananas even, the options are huge - you need a daily source of carbs that isn't junk food, you know that, I know that, everyone knows that.

 

[coffeejo]

I have just bought some Braeburn apples and a couple of bananas, need to get back to eating healthy again myself, that Jo is a bad influence on me

*splutter*

 

[ColinJ]

I will be honest here and say that I think you know what you need to eat but you are pretending ignorance on the subject in order to delay making a change.

You need to find a staple food that isn't crisps - that could be anything from tuna sandwiches to breakfast cereal but you need a daily source of carbs that isn't junk food, you know that, I know that, everyone knows that.

There is sometimes a giant gulf between knowing something and doing something about it!

I suffered from agoraphobia and panic attacks for 3 years after dropping out of university at the age of 20. It was so bad that I hardly left the house sober in that whole time. I even had to send friends to buy me the booze!.

I knew that should be out earning a living or studying, that I should get myself a girlfriend, learn to drive, go watch bands, travel and so on. What did I do in the hot hot hot summer of '76 while my peers were out sunbathing, womanising, having the summer of their lives? I stayed indoors, curtains closed, playing darts by myself for 10 hours a day, or watching soaps on TV.

Of course I knew that I should be getting a life, but it took me over 3 years to actually do it!

I've seen anorexia close-up and watching someone push 4 peas about a plate for 5 minutes, trying to pluck up the courage to eat one of them is a complete head-f*ck, but I can tell you that screaming "JUST EAT THE DAMN THINGS!" at the anorexic doesn't work.

I'm damn sure that he has had 20+ years of people saying "Oh for God's sake, it's only a bloody apple - take a bite of it and if you don't like it, spit out!" That obviously didn't help him. Getting into cycling and talking about his problems obviously does.

If Gaz didn't have the problems that he has got, then of course I wouldn't be spending time telling him how to go about choosing/eating bananas or apples. He knows that he has to do this kind of thing, but he has a psychological/emotional problem with it. He's been very honest about it and some of us are trying to help.

PS I just went to take a bite out of a Cox's apple and thought there was something dodgy about it. It turned out to be completely rotten inside! That kind of thing is rare, but I'm sure that it would have freaked Gaz out if it had happened to him, hence my advice to be careful to checking apples before eating them.

I try to imagine how he would feel and anticipate any problems that might catch him out and trigger off his gag reflex, or whatever actually happens when he tries to eat something that worries him.

 

[gb155]

I will be honest here and say that I think you know what you need to eat but you are pretending ignorance on the subject in order to delay making a change.

You need to find a staple food that isn't crisps - that could be anything, tuna sandwiches, breakfast cereal, beans on toast, pasta, porridge, rice, potatoes, turnips, green plantain bananas even, the options are huge - you need a daily source of carbs that isn't junk food, you know that, I know that, everyone knows that.

Nothing could be further from the truth !!!!!!

 

[gb155]

There is sometimes a giant gulf between knowing something and doing something about it!

I suffered from agoraphobia and panic attacks for 3 years after dropping out of university at the age of 20. It was so bad that I hardly left the house sober in that whole time. I even had to send friends to buy me the booze!.

I knew that should be out earning a living or studying, that I should get myself a girlfriend, learn to drive, go watch bands, travel and so on. What did I do in the hot hot hot summer of '76 while my peers were out sunbathing, womanising, having the summer of their lives? I stayed indoors, curtains closed, playing darts by myself for 10 hours a day, or watching soaps on TV.

Of course I knew that I should be getting a life, but it took me over 3 years to actually do it!

I've seen anorexia close-up and watching someone push 4 peas about a plate for 5 minutes, trying to pluck up the courage to eat one of them is a complete head-f*ck, but I can tell you that screaming "JUST EAT THE DAMN THINGS!" at the anorexic doesn't work.

I'm damn sure that he has had 20+ years of people saying "Oh for God's sake, it's only a bloody apple - take a bite of it and if you don't like it, spit out!" That obviously didn't help him. Getting into cycling and talking about his problems obviously does.

If Gaz didn't have the problems that he has got, then of course I wouldn't be spending time telling him how to go about choosing/eating bananas or apples. He knows that he has to do this kind of thing, but he has a psychological/emotional problem with it. He's been very honest about it and some of us are trying to help.

PS I just went to take a bite out of a Cox's apple and thought there was something dodgy about it. It turned out to be completely rotten inside! That kind of thing is rare, but I'm sure that it would have freaked Gaz out if it had happened to him, hence my advice to be careful to checking apples before eating them.

I try to imagine how he would feel and anticipate any problems that might catch him out and trigger off his gag reflex, or whatever actually happens when he tries to eat something that worries him.

Colin

Thanks for such an honest post mate

You right, since I was 3 it's been feeding by force, guilt or manipulation , that's left me totally void of knowledge , but with your help I feel, for the first time ever, ready to beat this & I also feel like I'll be able to too, it's been 27 years of anxiety about food , so zoiders saying " stop pretending " etc just reinforces the negative feelings and emotions that have been used shaker me for years.

I never thought I'd eat cashew nuts, I never thought I'd eat anything that was called Reggae reggae , but I have done and I'm living the new flavours it offers

I feel this is a cross roads and I'm ready Ti nail this, but just like a 3 year old baby, I need a little bit of hand holding and educating and Colin , I'll forever be grateful to you

Gaz

 

[potsy]

Give me a week and I'll have you eating donner kebabs by the van load

Soon get your physique looking like mine and Colins'

 

[gb155]

Give me a week and I'll have you eating donner kebabs by the van load

Soon get your physique looking like mine and Colins'

I'd love to know how :-)

 

[ColinJ]

Soon get your physique looking like mine and Colins'

I'd love to know how :-)

Well, I think you already know how to get a sumo belly. Potsy's specialisation is kebabs, mine is beer and yours was the snack-food diet!

 

[potsy]

I'd love to know how :-)

I wish I could forget how

 

[potsy]

Well, I think you already know how to get a sumo belly. Potsy's specialisation is kebabs, mine is beer and yours was the snack-food diet!

Ooh that sounds like the cue for a photo

 

[gb155]

Well, I think you already know how to get a sumo belly. Potsy's specialisation is kebabs, mine is beer and yours was the snack-food diet!

Add all 3 together and we could do 70 stone no probs :-)

 

[Lien Sdrawde]

A whole pinapple is good value - simply take a freshly sharpened sammurai sword to split in two, and then enjoy a few mouthfulls of the insides.
Mine been in the fridge for a couple of days so far as I work my way through it a few spoons at a time.


Strawberries and rasberries also deserve a shout (yummy) with only a small additional cost of some tooth pics to help remove the seeds from inbetween your nashers.

Ive also been trying plums (red or yellow), and boy oh boy are they tasty, but never seem to be sold actually 'ripe' so often you have to wait a few days to enjoy them.

 

[ColinJ]

A whole pinapple is good value - simply take a freshly sharpened sammurai sword to split in two, and then enjoy a few mouthfulls of the insides.

Mine been in the fridge for a couple of days so far as I work my way through it a few spoons at a time.

Fresh pineapple is lovely but you have to think where Gaz is coming from. To him, trying new food feels threatening, so it needs to be as straightforward as possible. A pineapple could look pretty intimidating to someone with SED!

Stop laughing at the back!

Gaz - despite having suggested earlier that you avoid foods from factories, I'd suggest starting off with the liquid from a tin of pineapple. Sometimes the liquid in tinned fruit is described as 'syrup' - that means it is laden with added sugar. You want 'juice' not 'syrup'. That would mean that there was nothing in the tin but the fruit and fruit juice. All the factory did was preserve that in a tin can.

I think you might take exception to the texture of pineapple itself. There is a slightly fibrous quality to it that might cause problems. Mind you, a small tin of pineapple is cheap so nowt much lost if you don't like it.

Try drinking the juice Gaz, and if you like sweetness of it, you could suck a few pineapple chunks and see how you got on. If that went well, you could try chewing one.

(All this talk of food is making me feel hungry - I'm off to have something to eat! )


PS I've just realised what you wrote about that 'freshly sharpened Samurai sword' - ho ho, what kitchen is complete without one!