Obesity needs a new definition

[Drago]

If your blood type is "Oxo"

Then you're Linda Bellingham.

Do you reckon the bald guy in the ad was basting her giblets?

 

[Punkawallah]

That bit surprises me. That's an extra 6 or 7 inches, is it not? I can manage the 50% but am definitely a bit lardy for my liking. 60%?
I'd have to move somewhere flatter.
Have I misunderstood this?

IDK. If you are 72” tall, and have a 36” waist, you are fat enough. If you were over 50, a 39.5” waist would be fat enough.

 

[cyberknight]

Or more like 30 / 67 = 44.8%. You want the ratio, hence divide not subtract.

hey i just put the figures into a % calculator , the website must be dodgy as i concur with your figures when i work it out myself

 

[Punkawallah]

hey i just put the figures into a % calculator , the website must be dodgy as i concur with your figures when i work it out myself

See - your Maths teacher was right after all :-)

 

[Dogtrousers]

Is your blood type "Bisto"?

Then you're fat.

I'm Marmite.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

And since the bulk of your mass is in the torso, will therefore have a larger "acceptable" value for BMI.

Hence why the healthy range is considered 19-25 to already take account of different torso / height ratios.

 

[Psamathe]

Whilst there is some validity with the criticisms in that some built-like-brick-shithouse rugby players and such would in theory be deemed obese by the flowchart, as soon as the the doc saw someone's build they'd be able to distinguish at a glance between a muscled guy or lass and a lard-ass.

I agree. No GP is going to look at a fit muscly bound rugby player and put them on these new weight loss drugs because of their BMI. Similarly, somebody who really is obese, if GP tells them they need to lose weight then patient might reflect that it's only GP's opinion but if GP backs-up his comment with "and your BMI is ..." it might reinforce his message as it becomes a bit of an independent measure not just one person's view.

I suspect most people don't need BMI to tell them what they already know but if they ideally should lose some maybe BMI can give them a helping push?

One aspect of BMI that does surprise me is when NHS use BMI thresholds to decide who "qualifies" for different treatments. I'd have expected that when somebody is potentially having eg stomach bands (or whatever they are) a dietician would have already have assessed them, tried alternatives and probably moved somewhat beyond BMI.

Ian

 

[BoldonLad]

Whilst there is some validity with the criticisms in that some built-like-brick-shithouse rugby players and such would in theory be deemed obese by the flowchart, as soon as the the doc saw someone's build they'd be able to distinguish at a glance between a muscled guy or lass and a lard-ass.

I would also wonder weather some of the genuine strongmen / weightlifters are actually a healthy build, even if very little of it is fat. This is a question rather than an opinion though

Agreed. We have an obesity problem in UK. Quibbling about BMI will not fix it. For MOST people the simple BMI measure gives a good indication that a problem is developing, and, needs to be addressed, not excused by shooting the messenger. Just look around your average high street or supermarket, the majority of the population are NOT Olympic athletes, or, even semi fit.

Edit: I see another poster beat me to it. 😊

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Do you reckon the bald guy in the ad was basting her giblets?

What?

 

[Alex321]

Hence why the healthy range is considered 19-25 to already take account of different torso / height ratios.

No, it has a range because for any given person, there is a range between being too skinny and being overweight.

 

[Marchrider]

193cm to 36" waist (nice mix of units there) puts me about 46.

you're a big lad -

I'm a bit porky at the moment, got carried away over xmas - too many puddings
72 tall 37 waist = 51.4%

it will come off when we get into the spring
probably 72/34 mid summer 47%. I need to get back down to under 13st and cycling doesn't help it just makes me more hungry

 

[gbb]

Now that would be classed as unhealthy

Well, I say virtually no fat...I don't mean literally, just very lean.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

a 39.5” waist would be fat enough.

That would be way past fat enough. That’s a huge belly.

 

[Oldhippy]

I figure at 6ft with a 29 inch waist I'm probably good.

 

[Conrad_K]

I agree. No GP is going to look at a fit muscly bound rugby player and put them on these new weight loss drugs because of their BMI.

No, but in America the medical insurance companies will use BMI number to set your monthly insurance premiums.