glasgowcyclist
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To get back to the original subject I'll ask the question of those in favour of it; what is the goal of compulsion?
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New helmet law in Jersey
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mcshroom
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Doing 'something'
deptfordmarmoset
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Addressing the concerns of parents on a dangerous island* without addressing the root cause of the danger.
*Yeh, ok, dangerous islands.
*Yeh, ok, dangerous islands.
slowmotion
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An overwhelming desire to control other peoples' lives.
I really feel like joining User and nipping out to buy some snouts.
I really feel like joining User and nipping out to buy some snouts.
deptfordmarmoset
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Ok, for the one word answer thing....
Diversion.
glasgowcyclist
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[QUOTE 3201318, member: 30090"]Safety.[/QUOTE]
Safety from what?
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Safety from what?
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mcshroom
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Having to anything about the bad driving
Big Nick
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Depends how fast you ride them....
Often yes, couriers, paramedics, police all use both for getting around quickly in city centres near me
Poacher
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Where? Please quote the post and explain where and how TMN argued that a point of view should be outlawed.
deptfordmarmoset
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Indeed, Jersey has a driving safely record that, even with only about 200-or-so miles of roads and a nominal maximum speed of 40mph, they realise that they have a problem. They commission TRL, who, to be fair to them, do mention that kids regularly hurt themselves falling off bikes without other vehicles being involved (surprise, surprise), but still conclude that compulsory kids' helmets will help. Meanwhile, they've all successfully managed to avoid the sources of the problem completely.
I'm by no means an expert on Jersey tax laws or lax Jersey laws but I gather they don't even apply the points on your licence system that rules in the rest of the UK. I sincerely hope I've got that wrong because otherwise kids are paying the price for something they never bought into.
EDIT: yup, just fines for speeding so far. Rich people can afford fines.
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Profpointy
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Prior to compulsion being a real political threat to cycling, i would be pursuaded by any reasonable evidence that wearing a helmet improved safety - let's say from a country wide experiment where wearing rates increased from 10% to 90% and injuries reduced singificantly at the same time, perhaps where compulsion was introduced in Australia and Ontario - but this doesn't appear to have happened. Like TMN I used to wear a helmet long before they were fashionable because it was "obvious" they would help - however I stopped wearing one because the evidence doesn't stack up.
Now it.would need very solid evidence indeed for me to revert as I see compulsion as a serious threat to common.sense, cycling, and freedom i general.
slowmotion
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Does anybody actually believe that helmets are fashionable...???????? That's news to me. The wearers look like utter prats, including myself.
up hill struggle
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there not fashionable? Not surprised by that, nothing i wear is, lol.did anybody happen to see the cycle show on the tv ( i think it was 2 weeks ago ) James Cracknell was on discussing his career & the accident that he was involved in a few years back in America when he was hit by a truck, he sustained head injuries but is on record saying that he owes his life to the helmet he was wearing on the day & that if he had not been wearing the helmet he would have been killed in the accident.
watching that & seeing the damage the helmet received i find it hard to believe that he would have survived the accident had he not decided to wear one, he & the doctors believe that a helmet saved his life, that's evidence enough to persuade me to keep wearing mine if i had even been thinking of leaving it at home.
i can not understand why there are people on a cycling forum getting there cycling shorts in a twist because a government wants to make it compulsory for children to wear cycling helmets while riding in the the hope it helps protect children from head injuries if they happen to be knocked off there bikes.
considering if jersey passes a law making it compulsory for children to wear helmets while riding its hardly going to affect people on her unless your a child & live jersey or that's where you spend your cycling holidays with your kids.
did anybody happen to see the cycle show on the tv ( i think it was 2 weeks ago ) James Cracknell was on discussing his career & the accident that he was involved in a few years back in America when he was hit by a truck, he sustained head injuries but is on record saying that he owes his life to the helmet he was wearing on the day & that if he had not been wearing the helmet he would have been killed in the accident.
But is NOT on record declaring the fact that he has a financial interest and being paid to day this
Is the fact that the same doctors state the Thudguard is effective unequivocal proof for it's use?
The reason it is of concern is that once again we have a group of politicians that have been fooled by a pack of misinformation and lies[/QUOTE]
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