New car disaster!

[Dogtrousers]

Re the second link, I haven't had a chance yet to go through the 463 pages of the Highways Act.

The link should just be to section 132. There are just two paragraphs.

 

[DaveReading]

The link should just be to section 132. There are just two paragraphs.
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Thanks for that.

So would a sign painted on a wheely bin be classed as "upon the surface of a highway or upon any tree, structure or works on or in a highway"?

I guess only a court could rule on that, if push came to shove - hence my question about whether anyone has been prosecuted.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

These auto beams may explain why I get blinded by unessacary bright lights, I often have to dip my rear mirror because the following vehicle is dazzling me.

This is where our auto-dipping rearview mirror is a godsend.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Thanks for that.

So would a sign painted on a wheely bin be classed as "upon the surface of a highway or upon any tree, structure or works on or in a highway"?

I guess only a court could rule on that, if push came to shove - hence my question about whether anyone has been prosecuted.

Not a clue. My knowledge of the law is pretty much zero.

But it seems there are two arms to it: the highways act deals with people doing things that interfere with proper operation of the highways and local authorities planning regulations dealing with things you're not allowed to build.

 

[grldtnr]

This is where our auto-dipping rearview mirror is a godsend.

But, ....it shouldn't be or need be , should it.
Just as dangerous ,if more so is incoming traffic, in poor conditions, rain or wet screens can be very dicey.
If the driver of the oncoming vehicle is dazzling you with lights, is it moronic behaviour from the 'entitled' I have auto beams, or do they just do not realise.
Many times I have had to stop because I cannot safely see.
This is the bad side of technology.

 

[Psamathe]

Thanks for that.

So would a sign painted on a wheely bin be classed as "upon the surface of a highway or upon any tree, structure or works on or in a highway"?

I guess only a court could rule on that, if push came to shove - hence my question about whether anyone has been prosecuted.

I raised wheely bins as I see a fair number of bins in small villages with speed stickers - not fake speed limit signs but along the lines of "Drive Carefully in Our Village" or "Warning, Children Playing", etc..

Ian

 

[icowden]

All these driving aids don't seem to reduce accidents as folk rely on them. Like this tool we saw on Sunday.

That's a Lamborghini and it's highly unlikely that the driving aids (if in use) would have made a difference. The driver was likely showing off and failing to maintain control of the supercar. Driving aids do reduce accidents.

 

[grldtnr]

That's a Lamborghini and it's highly unlikely that the driving aids (if in use) would have made a difference. The driver was likely showing off and failing to maintain control of the supercar. Driving aids do reduce accidents.

Not that one evidently, the greatest 2 safety devices, commonsense, and a dirty great spike fitted to the steering wheel of the car, neither would be much use in a Lambo

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Driving aids do reduce accidents.

Massively so imo. And many drivers have no idea how hard their car's safety systems are working on their behalf; even during relatively benign trips. Many don't even know what the acronyms stand for, let alone what they do.

 

[gbb]

Massively so imo. And many drivers have no idea how hard their car's safety systems are working on their behalf; even during relatively benign trips. Many don't even know what the acronyms stand for, let alone what they do.

While I agree, I think the problem really is that people don't want those interventions. Most are pretty passive systems, warning but not actually intervening and can easily be ignored. I'd have thought a good majority of cars on the road (say cars post 2015) will have some systems already...but the amount of speeding drivers out there belie the systems effectiveness.

In short, if people want to ignore...its pointless,and clearly a LOT of people disregard their own, let alone others safety.

Personally, the only one on my 2018 Mazda that influences me is speed warnings which I use constantly. it saves looking at the speedo, keeps eyes on the road.
Sadly unless they make the systems active and not possible to override, its pretty mute for a lot of people.

Would I want such intervention ?, .... it perhaps wouldn't bother me too much but I'm a pretty steady driver. Seems I'm in a minority a lot of the time...

 

[simongt]

Just as dangerous ,if more so is incoming traffic, in poor conditions, rain or wet screens can be very dicey.

Or as does happen, the oncoming traffic is coming uphill towards you, it appears as if no-one has dipped their headlights.

 

[Dadam]

Not that one evidently, the greatest 2 safety devices, commonsense, and a dirty great spike fitted to the steering wheel of the car, neither would be much use in a Lambo

Not so. I think both would have been beneficial in that Lambo incident. Had the driver had a modicum of the former, they wouldn't have driven it like such an idiot.

 

[Dadam]

While I agree, I think the problem really is that people don't want those interventions. Most are pretty passive systems, warning but not actually intervening and can easily be ignored. I'd have thought a good majority of cars on the road (say cars post 2015) will have some systems already...but the amount of speeding drivers out there belie the systems effectiveness.

In short, if people want to ignore...its pointless,and clearly a LOT of people disregard their own, let alone others safety.

Personally, the only one on my 2018 Mazda that influences me is speed warnings which I use constantly. it saves looking at the speedo, keeps eyes on the road.
Sadly unless they make the systems active and not possible to override, its pretty mute for a lot of people.

Would I want such intervention ?, .... it perhaps wouldn't bother me too much but I'm a pretty steady driver. Seems I'm in a minority a lot of the time...

Not all driver aids are the same. The previous poster is presumably referring to traction control and electronic stability, which have been mandatory on cars sold here for 10 years. It's not a case of ignoring them: most people are barely aware they're there! You can turn them off, at least partially but not generally advisable unless on track.

 

[DaveReading]

Or as does happen, the oncoming traffic is coming uphill towards you, it appears as if no-one has dipped their headlights.

More specifically, that your vehicle and the oncoming one aren't on the same plane.

 

[grldtnr]

My inference was the Common sense is often deleted, the moment the driver gets behind the wheel, not all of course..
But how many drivers with high performance vehicles actually use it, very few, otherwise they wouldn't have bought the vehicle in the first place, vain glorious vanity makes them but such things.
Also at fault are the vehicle manufacturers, they design and sell such vehicles ,in the full knowledge that the buyers can very seldom use the performance on public roads, or on race tracks except the rare few that indulge in private sessions on race track or race days, and the advertising that over emphasize it's performance, just look at any number of car adverts and they show in extremist a car / vehicle travelling in a environment where there is no other vehicles around.,Yes it's a fantasies construct, but in reality, that car is hardly ever going to be in that situation .
That's the commonsense I am talking about,
You may say I am a bore and not exited by such things, well to an extent perhaps that's true, but I get far more out of sailing my boat , or riding any of my cycles to the best of my abilities, which doesn't rely on a engine to get it going, I do own a car ,and a motorbike, but they are sensible ones, i get my 'rush' from simpler things in life, which do not need a massive engine , just my nerve to push to the limits my cycling ,sailing