Motorsports Thread

[Illaveago]

I've watched F1 for 30+ years, the cheers in our house when Max won I've never heard before.

My 9 year old daughter was absolutely hooked to the last seconds.

Racing is racing, no question of having the safety car out due to where the crashed car has to be recovered.

I would have called it a stich up if the HADN'T cleared the lapped cars personally.

Looking through the season Red Bull have always got it in the neck decision wise, made a refreshing change to see one going their way for a change.

Roll on next year, hopefully George Russell will get a chance to race properly and not have his races wrecked in the pits (that left a sour taste, he was stitched up good and proper).

What!
I think Max was given a back of the grid penalty for causing the crash at Monza. So his team decided to fit a new engine into his car which would also mean a back of the grid penalty therefore negating the penalty for the next race.
In the Saudi Arabian GP Max caused the smash by slamming on his brakes , known as brake testing . Penalty 10 seconds which had no effect apart from dropping him back from LH .
Max is a dangerous driver who is allowed to do what he wants. They say he is brave going for gaps which aren't there . If there were solid walls instead of nice wide run off areas his car would end up smashed just like he did on his qualifying lap in a previous race .

 

[figbat]

I would have called it a stich up if the HADN'T cleared the lapped cars personally.

But why only the ones between Max and Lewis? Why not the ones between Carlos and Max? Let Carlos have a bite at Max (and maybe even Lewis) - that’s racing, after all? And why not the ones further back who have their own races to run and were denied the chance of an extra lap of racing on a whim by Masi?

 

[Bonefish Blues]

But why only the ones between Max and Lewis? Why not the ones between Carlos and Max? Let Carlos have a bite at Max (and maybe even Lewis) - that’s racing, after all? And why not the ones further back who have their own races to run and were denied the chance of an extra lap of racing on a whim by Masi?

...and just to build on that, of course the rules state that the unlapped cars then need to reattach themselves to the back of the 'train' before racing re-starts.

...oh, and remember that there has then to be a lap afterwards before the Safety Car can be withdrawn.

...both of which mean that the race would have finished under Safety Car conditions.

This was literally the only scenario where Max could win the race. The only one - and it's contrary to the FIA's own rules.

 

[Alex321]

Cant say i am au fait with the rules but it always seemed to be that lapped cars inbetween the lead lappers passed, allowing the lead lap cars to continue in their rightful positions. Despitr the farce of it, thats what happend surely ?
Dont get me wrong , F1 has become a farce anyway, i dont generally watch it with any pleasure anymore, they certainly didnt help themselves yesterday.

No, what happened was that they only allowed the cares between the first two drivers to unlap themselves.

It is normally ALL lapped cars, not just the ones between the first two positions. But if they had done that, it would have taken too long, and they would not have had that lap of racing at the end. They shouldn't have done anyhow, because they restarted before the unlapped cars were far enough around the track.

And as well as taking longer, allowing all lapped cars through (the only valid option according to the rules) would have left Sainz up the tail of Verstappen, which might have limitied his ability to get past Hamilton.

 

[Illaveago]

I think Masi is a puppet being manipulated by Bernie Ecclestone .

 

[Bonefish Blues]

I think Masi is a puppet being manipulated by Bernie Ecclestone .

Bernie was on R4 this morning and said, in terms, that Masi made an honest error, before rapidly engaging reverse when he realised what he'd just said!

 

[Illaveago]

Lost one due to being over confident about his abilities. Ending up in the gravel trap after his tyres gave up.

"Ferrarigate", where the team were disqualified as well.

You are correct on some of it . 2007 Lewis Hamilton's first year in F1 and finished 2nd to Kimi in a Ferrari 1 point behind in the championship. I think there was some controversy over an incident at Spa . I think it involved Lewis cutting a corner and getting in front of Kimi , letting him have position back and then re taking it . It was also Ferrari gate as well . I can remember that there was uproar at the time complaining that it was rigged .
Lewis won the championship the following year by 1 point .

 

[Illaveago]

Bernie was on R4 this morning and said, in terms, that Masi made an honest error, before rapidly engaging reverse when he realised what he'd just said!

Did Ecclestone tell him to say that ?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

This thread is delicious.

 

[classic33]

You are correct on some of it . 2007 Lewis Hamilton's first year in F1 and finished 2nd to Kimi in a Ferrari 1 point behind in the championship. I think there was some controversy over an incident at Spa . I think it involved Lewis cutting a corner and getting in front of Kimi, letting him have position back and then re taking it . It was also Ferrari gate as well . I can remember that there was uproar at the time complaining that it was rigged .
Lewis won the championship the following year by 1 point .

Isn't that what Verstappen was doing last week. Having been told to so, strategically.

 

[FishFright]

I wonder if Masi has had an anonymous large amount of money deposited into his bank account ?

Red Bull offering Nicholas LaTifi with supplies of their drinks doesn't sound correct !

I think it's pressure from Liberty Media to provide a show that cracked Masi and gave us the roll-a-dice rules season.

 

[Illaveago]

I think it's pressure from Liberty Media to provide a show that cracked Masi and gave us the roll-a-dice rules season.

I still think Ecclestone had involvement . When he spoke the other day saying that "Lewis didn't need to win his eighth championship", it reminded me of what he said back in 2007 . "Lewis doesn't need to win the championship in his first year ".

 

[FishFright]

I still think Ecclestone had involvement . When he spoke the other day saying that "Lewis didn't need to win his eighth championship", it reminded me of what he said back in 2007 . "Lewis doesn't need to win the championship in his first year ".

I quite miss the old rouge

 

[Jody]

I quite miss the old rouge

As bent as a nine bob note.

 

[classic33]

There's one record set this year that's unlikely to be beaten.
"The longest pit stop in formula one history is 43 hours and 15 minutes. This is about 2,595 minutes or 155,700 seconds and it is a record held by Mercedes F1 team."