Motorsports Thread

[Bonefish Blues]

I think Max isn't as bright as some of his peers, being kind.

 

[Reynard]

Yet, we don't want to see them lifting three quarts around Curva Parabolica (Monza) or Eau Rouge (Spa)

True...

But if you lift three quarters the way round those, you'll simply get hung out to dry, as you really need the momentum. Especially at Spa, with the massive changes in gradient.

 

[Reynard]

I think Max isn't as bright as some of his peers, being kind.

You've just said what I didn't want to...

Max is blindingly quick, but lacks a racing brain.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

True...

But if you lift three quarters the way round those, you'll simply get hung out to dry, as you really need the momentum. Especially at Spa, with the massive changes in gradient.

If you lift at E-R, you'll end up in the shrubbery!

 

[figbat]

You've just said what I didn't want to...

Max is blindingly quick, but lacks a racing brain.

You could almost see his brain working on the second incident...

"YAY!! Look at me!! I'm overtakin..... OH, WAIT, I remember now from the last lap, I don't want to overtake here".

 

[Jody]

If you lift at E-R, you'll end up in the shrubbery!

A sssshhhhhhhhhhwubbbewy?

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Yes, gwubbing awound.

 

[FishFright]

But in my world, putting ONE wheel over the white line and continuing should incur a penalty. To say that all FOUR wheels have to go past the white line before a car is " off' just means that the track is now three quarters of a car wider than the white line. I find that ridiculous. And drivers have to be observed breaking the rules, or else they have got away with it. Never mind the arguments about whether three nanometers of the car was still in contact with the white line so no penalty us due.....
That is not satisfactory to me. Likewise, getting THREE "lives" on the run off areas in BTCC.
I would prefer corners to be lined with large kerbs, both sides of the track, so anyone going over one risks damaging the car and perhaps thus being forced out of the race. Drivers would have to come to terms with keeping their cars in the black stuff, and staying off the other stuff....

Rant over. Sorry about that .....

I was right with you up to large kerbs because sometimes crossing the line isn't voluntary.

 

[Alex321]

But in my world, putting ONE wheel over the white line and continuing should incur a penalty. To say that all FOUR wheels have to go past the white line before a car is " off' just means that the track is now three quarters of a car wider than the white line. I find that ridiculous. And drivers have to be observed breaking the rules, or else they have got away with it. Never mind the arguments about whether three nanometers of the car was still in contact with the white line so no penalty us due.....
That is not satisfactory to me. Likewise, getting THREE "lives" on the run off areas in BTCC.
I would prefer corners to be lined with large kerbs, both sides of the track, so anyone going over one risks damaging the car and perhaps thus being forced out of the race. Drivers would have to come to terms with keeping their cars in the black stuff, and staying off the other stuff....

Rant over. Sorry about that .....

It really doesn't matter whether is it "any of the car over" or "all of the car over", so long as the rule is clear, and it is consistently enforced.

Putting large kerbs as you suggest would be much too dangerous. Most cases where cars go outside the track limits are down to mistakes, not deliberately choosing to do so, and large kerbs wouldn't prevent mistakes, just make the consequences much more severe.

 

[figbat]

Why have kerbs at all? Why not lose the kerbs completely and just have white lines and clear infringement rules?

 

[Reynard]

Most cases where cars go outside the track limits are down to mistakes, not deliberately choosing to do so, and large kerbs wouldn't prevent mistakes, just make the consequences much more severe.

Errr, no.

By deliberately taking a wider line, you "flatten" the angle of the corner and ergo you can carry more speed through it.

Which is why racing drivers do it.

 

[Illaveago]

Why have kerbs at all? Why not lose the kerbs completely and just have white lines and clear infringement rules?

Land mines !

 

[glasgowcyclist]

A cat claw?

https://www.eta.co.uk/2018/01/10/ca...gerous-pavement-parking-by-bursting-car-tyre/

Stick one far enough inside the apex to allow reasonable kerb use but deter corner cutting.

 

[derrick]

Bring back the sand.

 

[icowden]

I think it's as someone mentioned previously. Just have a rule that wheels are not allowed over the white line else a penalty *may* be imposed if a driver gains advantage by so doing. That leaves it flexible enough that the stewards can deliberate over a genuine racing pass where a small liberty is unavoidable and someone deliberately taking advantage.

There were some qually laps where the commentators were quite surprised that times were allowed to stand as track limits had been exceeded.