Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
Ahh, but 'back in't day' 'when men were men', touring on single speeds & three gear derailleurs were the norm - !
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IanSmithCSE
Guru
- Location
- Worcester, Worcestershire
Good evening
With Q/R it is just flick/flick and the bike is in the car and at the other end it is just as easy.
No, oh that's unfortunate when you realise that the thru axle fell out and is in the car boot a mile or two up the road.
Bye
Ian
Okay, I have to admit to wimping out and getting the occasional lift home. :-)
With Q/R it is just flick/flick and the bike is in the car and at the other end it is just as easy.
No, oh that's unfortunate when you realise that the thru axle fell out and is in the car boot a mile or two up the road.
Bye
Ian
chriswoody
Legendary Member
- Location
- Northern Germany
With Q/R you have to first hope you have a bike without the dreaded lawyers lips, which completely defy the words quick and release. Then with disk brakes you have to faff around lining the disk up in the caliper to prevent rubbing as you close the lever. I have them on one of my bikes and I hate the cursed things.
With Thru-Axles the first thing you do on removing the wheel is pop the axle back in the frame and nip it up finger tight. That way no dirt gets in the threads and you don't misplace them. There's no way anyone will convince me that they are not superior to QR, I find them a godsend and make maintenance so much easier.
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
- Location
- Z’ha’dum
Yup - built in LED lights can be a pain
a few times I have put a rear light on and got home to find it had run out of electrons at some unknown point on the way back
I now have 3 rear lights and 2 on the front so I can be reasonably sure at least one will stay on!!
when I had batteries then they lasted longer and I could carry sone soare batteries
I suppose they still could still have run out and me not notice but they never did
Of course - I could by more expensive LED lights with bigger internal batteries but they will still run out unless I charge them before every trip
Jenkins
Legendary Member
- Location
- Felixstowe
STI (and SRAM equivalent) shifting/braking system with hidden cables.
Cotterless cranks and external bottom brackets
Aheadsets
Cotterless cranks and external bottom brackets
Aheadsets
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
Never had that issue in 22 years of running disc brakes and QR.
chriswoody
Legendary Member
- Location
- Northern Germany
Your not the first person I've heard say that, so maybe it's not a universal issue. I've only ever owned this one bike with hydraulic brakes and Q/R.
Also my back wheel goes back in no problem at all, it's just the front wheel, along with the lawyers lips, is an absolute pig to get in. For some reason it requires getting the lever to close almost 80%, then gently eyeballing the rotor in the caliper and pushing the wheel as you close the last bit. Get it wrong and the pads will rub the disc.
Could well be that if you were to measure everything with precision tools, that something is out of whack slightly, I really don't know. Maybe it is just my bike and no others, but it really is a pain in the back side.
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
I am with you on this.
It was a pretty universal issue back in the day on MTB forums.
I have owned 3 MTB's over the years with discs and QR's (Marin, Giant & Pace) and none of the discs ever lined up with the pads after a wheel removal and refit.
Same with road bikes and rim brakes. Fettle the pads just right, take the wheel off and replace, and the pads were never quite in the same position in relation to the wheel rim.
TA's: perfect every time.
QR's are pretty naff old-tech, imo.
raleighnut
Legendary Member
- Location
- One of the 'Elite'
I've still done that with a 21 gear bike (3x7 with 30-28 bottom gear) when it gets to the point of going so slowly uphill that you are slower than walking then I get off and push, please note this is with a heavily laden touring bike, Tent, sleeping bag, stove, pans, some food, and some clothes. It's still easier than carrying all that crap but then who wants to spend a week with the same undercrackers on except maybe @Drago for me I'd sooner have a change and summat dry if it has been persisting it down all day
Mike Ayling
Veteran
- Location
- Melbourne Downunda
Agree
brommieinkorea
Well-Known Member
Uh vintage,? Maybe. Rim brakes destroy the wheel, disc's do not, and the mechanical ones are easier to work on than rim wreckers.
brommieinkorea
Well-Known Member
Good evening,
The one thing that I could be persuaded is a loss is a frame tube large enough to take a down tube battery so that I could have an X35 (or similar) ebike.
Imagine this as an ebike, the hub motor would almost be hidden by the large sprocket... and then ........ imagine it again with a proper fork and head tube.
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I went Di2 (10 speed with lots of wires) on my new old stlye 753 frame and as most new electronic gears are wireless (to a greater or less degree ) it is even easier if buying new.
Although I don't have the desire (or the nerve) to try it,
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you may be able to glue some disc brake mounts to a steel frame.
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I think steel is implied by old,
Old bamboo will have rotted away.
Oh no it won't, m' mate has one he made in Vietnam in the early 70s
)
I am only semi joking;
That way you get the pleasure of a really annoying shriek for about 1 wheel rev every time the pads get wet and you get to pay the LBS £54 3 times a year for 4 new pads and these are just Tiagra level (okay about £35 on line)! Gotta love this progress thingie
But I do like the feel of hydraulic brakes, if only they made hydraulic rim brakes (but isn't a rim a disc without a hole, a-la Polo mints?) as I am not sold on thru axles. Actually I do remember talking about them in 1970s and we all felt stupid, why would anyone do that? I was too young for it to be pub talk but......
Bye
Ian
Hydraulic rim brakes were a thing ,Magura I think. They still destroyed the wheel.
steveindenmark
Legendary Member
Disc brakes, 27 gears, titanium. Electronic shifting, decent size tyres, Infinity saddle.
figbat
Slippery scientist
- Location
- South Oxfordshire, UK
That’s the first thing you should do, but it isn’t by design something you have to do so many times, many people have left their thru-axle at home or on the ground or whatever.
PaulSB
Squire
- Location
- Chorley, Lancashire
I can see how this might happen but it's probably only going to happen once to someone.
I know people who have rocked up for a drive 'n' ride or TT only to find their helmet, shoes etc. are still in the garage. It's no more an argument against thru axles than it is against road shoes or helmets.
Forgetting or losing an axle is a simple matter of being distracted, forgetful or whatever.
The only downside to thru axles is the need to carry a 6mm Allen key. No great hardship in truth.
