Modern bike features that've spoiled old bikes for you..

[figbat]

I can see how this might happen but it's probably only going to happen once to someone.

I know people who have rocked up for a drive 'n' ride or TT only to find their helmet, shoes etc. are still in the garage. It's no more an argument against thru axles than it is against road shoes or helmets.

Forgetting or losing an axle is a simple matter of being distracted, forgetful or whatever.

The only downside to thru axles is the need to carry a 6mm Allen key. No great hardship in truth.

The comparison was with QR though, where leaving the skewer behind is all but improbable. In that respect, QR ‘wins’.

It also depends on the thru-axle regarding the Allen key - I have one with a built-in ‘QR’ lever.

 

[Punkawallah]

Uh vintage,? Maybe. Rim brakes destroy the wheel, disc's do not, and the mechanical ones are easier to work on than rim wreckers.

The rims on my touring wheels are 40 years old, and are not worn out yet - not for want of trying. Perhaps modern ‘race’ wheels are more delicate?

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I can see how this might happen but it's probably only going to happen once to someone.

I know people who have rocked up for a drive 'n' ride or TT only to find their helmet, shoes etc. are still in the garage. It's no more an argument against thru axles than it is against road shoes or helmets.

Forgetting or losing an axle is a simple matter of being distracted, forgetful or whatever.

The only downside to thru axles is the need to carry a 6mm Allen key. No great hardship in truth.

I have DT Swiss TA's with no Allen key needed.

Not as theft proof but much more convenient.

 

[Gunk]

Only two things; Brifters and dual pivot brakes, but I’ve retro fitted both.

 

[raleighnut]

The rims on my touring wheels are 40 years old, and are not worn out yet - not for want of trying. Perhaps modern ‘race’ wheels are more delicate?

Yep same here, cleaning the pads and rims is hardly a lot of work, quick squirt with a hosepipe and good to go

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Yep same here, cleaning the pads and rims is hardly a lot of work, quick squirt with a hosepipe and good to go

Even replacing a rim when it does eventually wear out is not a massive job, although in fairness it's not something everyone wants to do.

 

[lostinthought]

Hydraulic rim brakes were a thing ,Magura I think. They still destroyed the wheel.

"Destroy the wheel" is a pretty dramatic way of saying "eventually wear out the rim"! ; )

I've replaced plenty of worn out rims on bike wheels, it's straightforward to do. Rims used to be considered "wear items" and were plentiful and cheap to replace. Even so, it generally takes a lot of winter miles to get to that point.

 

[PaulSB]

The comparison was with QR though, where leaving the skewer behind is all but improbable. In that respect, QR ‘wins’.

It also depends on the thru-axle regarding the Allen key - I have one with a built-in ‘QR’ lever.

I didn't know such a thing existed. I've only ever seen those which require an Allen key.

I have DT Swiss TA's with no Allen key needed.

Not as theft proof but much more convenient.

How are they tightened Spokey? Again I wasn't aware of this option.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I didn't know such a thing existed. I've only ever seen those which require an Allen key.



How are they tightened Spokey? Again I wasn't aware of this option.

See below.

You simply rotate the lever to tighten or untighten. They clamp like a Bulldog on steroids - mine have never move a millimetre once tightened. They just require a firm shove, yank or twist to start the removal process too.

The real beauty of them is that the lever is spring loaded and, once you have tightened the axle, you can pull the lever out slightly, rotate to the position you want it left in, release and voila! It is aligned with whatever floats your boat.

NB: looks like the lever can be removed completely on later models - mine are 2018.

Here you are:

https://www.dtswiss.com/en/wheels/wheels-technology/rws-technology

 

[PaulSB]

See below.

You simply rotate the lever to tighten or untighten. They clamp like a Bulldog on steroids - mine have never move a millimetre once tightened. They just require a firm shove, yank or twist to start the removal process too.

The real beauty of them is that the lever is spring loaded and, once you have tightened the axle, you can pull the lever out slightly, rotate to the position you want it left in, release and voila! It is aligned with whatever floats your boat.

NB: looks like the lever can be removed completely on later models - mine are 2018.

Here you are:

https://www.dtswiss.com/en/wheels/wheels-technology/rws-technology

Thanks. That is a major selling point to a man with serious cycling OCD issues!!

 

[Rhythm Thief]

See below.

You simply rotate the lever to tighten or untighten. They clamp like a Bulldog on steroids - mine have never move a millimetre once tightened. They just require a firm shove, yank or twist to start the removal process too.

The real beauty of them is that the lever is spring loaded and, once you have tightened the axle, you can pull the lever out slightly, rotate to the position you want it left in, release and voila! It is aligned with whatever floats your boat.

NB: looks like the lever can be removed completely on later models - mine are 2018.

Here you are:

https://www.dtswiss.com/en/wheels/wheels-technology/rws-technology

There is also a QR equivalent of these, which is supposed to hold the wheel much more securely than normal QR skewers. I've never used them though

 

[SpokeyDokey]

There is also a QR equivalent of these, which is supposed to hold the wheel much more securely than normal QR skewers. I've never used them though

Yes. Looks like they have been improving QR's too.

My exact model are these (obviously different f&r sizes):

https://www.biketart.com/products/d...ver-12-x-1-mm-thread#ProductDescriptionMobile

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Thanks. That is a major selling point to a man with serious cycling OCD issues!!

Indeed! But more to the point, the levers, once the tightening process is completed, can be pointed in a 'safe' direction.

I have the front aligned with the fork, ie up and slightly backwards and the rear, pointing backwards directly away from the chainstay.

 

[raleighnut]

There is also a QR equivalent of these, which is supposed to hold the wheel much more securely than normal QR skewers. I've never used them though

I use them, they work well

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Brifters

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