Maybe I’m Over reacting but…

[jowwy]

Dangerous only if you don't accept that other legal road users have as much right to be on the roads as you.
However they are travelling.

but is that what roubaixtuesday is saying?? because it doesnt come across that way, sighting dangerous roads??

 

[freiston]

I'm afraid I kicked this off.

I don't have all that much of a problem either, it just seems a really weird thing to do. Not going anywhere, just driving around. WTF? I use buses and trains a lot but I also don't go out and get on a bus just for the hell of riding on the bus.

But people are strange.

My partner has mobility issues and we don't have a car. When she is up to it, we sometimes get a bus from Coventry to Stratford upon Avon just for the ride and the day out. When she's not even up to the walk to the bus stops or around Stratford, a trip out to a cafe/garden centre in a friend's car is a much appreciated treat.

Once I even went with a friend in his car to a train station ("A") to ride A to B (another train station) back to A on a (steam) train and then the car ride back home. We did also have a meal and a pint at "B".

And I'm someone who has a problem with the prevalence of "car culture".

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Going out for a drive in your car imposes costs

Opera
Theatres
Schools
Museums
Football
Cricket
Athletes
British Cycling team

All the above impose costs on me of which I have no interest in, but that's life.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Once I even went with a friend in his car to a train station ("A") to ride A to B (another train station) back to A on a (steam) train and then the car ride back home. We did also have a meal and a pint at "B".

And I'm someone who has a problem with the prevalence of "car culture".

Now I'm going to have to admit the time I went to Croydon just to have a go on the tram.

 

[classic33]

but is that what roubaixtuesday is saying?? because it doesnt come across that way, sighting dangerous roads??

Ask him not me.

Do you mean citing dangerous roads, not "sighting dangerous roads"?

 

[Mo1959]

but going out for a ride on your motorbike, boat, quad, etc etc is all ok??.....they subject us all to the same costs, so should people stop doing everything so those costs are stopped??

or are people allowed to have a life??

I also dont get how its a danger and inconvenience?

but its dangerous, polluting and inconvenient....

You do realise you are arguing with yourself now!

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Dangerous only if you don't accept that other legal road users have as much right to be on the roads as you.
However they are travelling.

The presence of motorists causes roads to be dangerous to others, notably cyclists and pedestrians.

That has a huge impact on the freedom of those people to use the roads.

I don't think this is remotely a point of controversy.

 

[Alex321]

The presence of motorists causes roads to be dangerous to others, notably cyclists and pedestrians.

That has a huge impact on the freedom of those people to use the roads.

I don't think this is remotely a point of controversy.

I do.

What causes roads to be dangerous to others is people using the roads incorrectly. Whether they are driving, cycling, riding a horse, or even just walking.

"Motorists" are only a cause of danger when they drive badly. Which, of course, many do, but other road users also use the road badly.

 

[Oldhippy]

I do.

What causes roads to be dangerous to others is people using the roads incorrectly. Whether they are driving, cycling, riding a horse, or even just walking.

"Motorists" are only a cause of danger when they drive badly. Which, of course, many do, but other road users also use the road badly.

The guns aren't dangerous, people are, argument doesn't really hold up I think. The gun lobby regularly trots this out. Cars are dangerous for all for the pollution caused making them as well as running them, this is undeniable. Adding tired unthinking people to the equation just adds to the misery. Traffic jams are just considered a part of life, they don't need to be if people were more socially responsible.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Cars are inherently hazardous.

The risk to others can be controlled, but never eliminated.

And there are costs to others beyond immediate physical injury, through congestion, pollution and the prevention of others - notably children - from the use of public spaces because of the hazards are unavoidable.

 

[Jody]

but its dangerous, polluting and inconvenient....

Why is driving for leisure dangerous?

 

[matticus]

Do people really do that? "Go for a drive". I've never, in my entire life (except when I was learning to drive) gone out and driven a car just for the sake of driving a car. I've only ever driven a car because I want to get somewhere.

Are you one of the 7 males-over-30 on the planet that doesn't own a copy of Bat Out of Hell? I can lend you it. It's for your own good, I promise you...

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Why is driving for leisure dangerous?

I believe you have to read it in context, he is quoting not making a statement

 

[jowwy]

Why is driving for leisure dangerous?

ask roubaix tuesday, he was the one that said it was not me

 

[jowwy]

You do realise you are arguing with yourself now!

no - im quoting roubaix tuesday....cause that was in his answer