The big wigs in general spend most of their time in meetings, not watching sport.
Mass arrests 'Critical Mass' cycle ride during Olympics opening
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The big wigs in general spend most of their time in meetings, not watching sport.
middleagecyclist
Call me MAC
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- Prestwich, Manchester
Buckfast then. Would you opt for the Green or the Brown variant?
I don't see it I'm afraid. I find it impossible to identify anything that CM has actually achieved for cycling.
Someone with fewer broken arms than me can start the debate on how and in which direction this apparent conflict is resolved. But I'm not even sure it necessarily exists: the implication seems to be that people on bikes are not people who work for businesses or are engaged in commerce. Are you really suggesting that all the cyclists I see on the city roads between 8 and 9am are actually out for pleasure rides?
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Criminy!
However in January 2010 a BBC investigation revealed that Buckfast had been mentioned in 5,638 crime reports in the Strathclyde area of Scotland from 2006–2009, equating to an average of three per day. One in 10 of those offences had been violent and 114 times in that period a Buckfast bottle was used as a weapon. A survey at a Scottish young offenders’ institution showed of the 117 people who drank alcohol before committing their crimes, 43 percent said they had drunk Buckfast. In another study of litter around a typical council estate in Scotland, 35 percent of the items identified as rubbish were Buckfast bottles
However in January 2010 a BBC investigation revealed that Buckfast had been mentioned in 5,638 crime reports in the Strathclyde area of Scotland from 2006–2009, equating to an average of three per day. One in 10 of those offences had been violent and 114 times in that period a Buckfast bottle was used as a weapon. A survey at a Scottish young offenders’ institution showed of the 117 people who drank alcohol before committing their crimes, 43 percent said they had drunk Buckfast. In another study of litter around a typical council estate in Scotland, 35 percent of the items identified as rubbish were Buckfast bottles
[QUOTE 1957413, member: 45"]Though it's picked up a fair bit over the past few years, it's never been great. It's the horrific road planning that's at fault, and that it's always been our motor city.[/quote]
Birmingham considered as a city (as opposed to a part of the West Midlands metroplex) is small, arranged radially, and ideal for bicycle journeys...........except, that, as you say, the highways planning, even in the centre of town, is inimical to cycling. Things may have changed, but I recall a lot of one way streets with smoothed corners.
Over and above that I wonder if there is a cultural basis for cycling. There are cities in which cycling is seen as progressive or normal or even (dare I say it) middle class. I don't see that in Birmingham (which is, by the way, my favourite city in the world apart from London)
Now,,,,just down the road is the Best Bike Club of All. What's happened in Stourbridge is that one person has made cycling desirable. That doesn't make Stourbridge a cycling town, but it has shifted the culture. My point is that sometimes it's not about committees or elections, but about people just getting out and making a difference.
Birmingham considered as a city (as opposed to a part of the West Midlands metroplex) is small, arranged radially, and ideal for bicycle journeys...........except, that, as you say, the highways planning, even in the centre of town, is inimical to cycling. Things may have changed, but I recall a lot of one way streets with smoothed corners.
Over and above that I wonder if there is a cultural basis for cycling. There are cities in which cycling is seen as progressive or normal or even (dare I say it) middle class. I don't see that in Birmingham (which is, by the way, my favourite city in the world apart from London)
Now,,,,just down the road is the Best Bike Club of All. What's happened in Stourbridge is that one person has made cycling desirable. That doesn't make Stourbridge a cycling town, but it has shifted the culture. My point is that sometimes it's not about committees or elections, but about people just getting out and making a difference.
In my experience the vast majority of car drivers do just that, evidence the fact that cycling is safe.
the clear and started objective was to claim a right of access to the countryside
I'd accept indirect comparisons bit not direct: Kinderscout was about claiming right of access to areas where access was denied by law. Cyclists have more right of access to the road network than motorists
pubrunner
Legendary Member
Probably not me then - I've broken my left arm, three times . . . twice bike related.
No, I'm not suggesting that at all !
The point that I'm trying to put across, is that the 'movers & shakers' in London, who keep the wheels of commerce & business turning, ain't too concerned with the 'rights' of cyclists. As priorities go, it is way down on their lists. (It isn't something with which I agree, btw)
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- Glasgow
Did you find out about Buckfast, then? I've been away from the computer, could have explained it to you
Would not recommend it, he he .... makes you
1. there was violence
2. the numbers were similar
and the rest, as I said, is how you write history
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- Glasgow
Nooooooooooooooooooooo
you'll fall off the bike!maybe so - but Richard Hoggart made the point this was about righting an historical wrong, and for others, stuck in overcrowded accommodation, it was about having a bit of privacy for sex. My point is that people protest for all kinds of reasons.
