Is 5 a day good science?

[Wednesday]

Marketing ploy? Quite possibly. How often are five different (commonly available) fruits actually in season together? How many are solely available as imports? Patently there is an element of greasing the wheels of capitalism here!

It's fruit and veg, not just fruit. You should be going for more veg than fruit, really.

 

[yello]

You should be going for more veg than fruit, really.

Indeed. I was reading some interesting stuff about fructose recently.

 

[Zoof]

Just for a moment thought it was save to eat chips,

then my hopes were dashed at the last second
but on a run a do prefer a baked spud, because chips are to heavy!
So far it seems that you all have the same information as I
That's unusual as someone always pops up with a link.
Will go on Google and do some fishing,
If I find some information I will post the link for you dissemination

 

[Zoof]

Indeed. I was reading some interesting stuff about fructose recently.

Hi yello can you post the link because stuff about fructose is of great interest, to me too.

 

[yello]

http://www.drbriffa....l-than-glucose/

and from http://thatpaleoguy.blogspot.com

While fructose is processed, conversion of glucose to glycogen (glycogenesis) in the liver is blocked. The reduction in glucose metabolism, in turn, causes insulin levels to rise so that glucose is taken up in alternative sites, such as muscle tissue. Such high insulin levels leads to compensatory insulin resistance in muscle tissue. This mechanism may explain how fructose has little acute effect on serum glucose levels, but importantly, impairs glycaemic control after long-term exposure to high doses.

The above blog cites http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20360797

Re 5-a-day, note also this blog post from the same blog! It quotes the Daily Mail but, hey, what they hell!

 

[Zoof]

http://www.drbriffa....l-than-glucose/

and from http://thatpaleoguy.blogspot.com



The above blog cites http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/20360797

Re 5-a-day, note also this blog post from the same blog! It quotes the Daily Mail but, hey, what they hell!

thanks yello just what the Doc ordered, I just need time to read it.

But try this to be going on with
http://www.newscient...a-day-wont.html

Just found this
I have been thinking along these lines for some time.

importantly, staying healthy relies on more than just eating five fruits and vegetables a day.
If the rest of what people eat is a mish-mash of fat and sugar-laden junk food, then no amount of fruit and
veg can clean up the mess.
It's also worth noting that there's increasing evidence that fat and sugar have a toxic effect on the body that, ironically,
our own fat protects us from for as long as possible.

I think you can add salt in too.

Turn out your pockets, lets get rid of the gels lads.

" let them eat Bread" Zoof

 

[Davidc]

Being healthy, or as healthy as you can be with your individual body, comes from a combination of lifestyle factors not just how much of a particular type of food you eat.

No amount of fruit and veg is likely to compensate for having no exercise and/ or being morbidly obese. A diet consisting entirely of fruit and veg, with no potatoes, grain or nuts (which we're told don't count) should kill anyone fairly quickly.

Eating a reasonable amount of fruit and veg as part of a balanced diet is probably a good idea, although traditional Innuit cuisine (fish mainly) didn't include any and they were healthy.

Health education needs to be far more than just a trite, simple slogan about one thing.

I happen to like fruit and vegetables a lot. I also like fsh a lot. Both are said to be healthy. Some people don't like fish and prefer to have only small amounts of vegetation in their food. Some of them are a lot healthier than I am. Doesn't prove anything.

 

[albion]

Recently it's been pretty much confirmed that the traditional fatty western diet both causes and maintains diabetes type 2.Of course if we all ate non processed food McDonalds, KFC and maybe even Tesco and Asda would go bust.

 

[slowmotion]

Why can't we just take vitamin and mineral pills?

 

[yello]

Recently it's been pretty much confirmed that the traditional fatty western diet both causes and maintains diabetes type 2.

I think I also read recently that diabetes is on the increase. Suggests our diets are getting worse.

 

[Lisa21]

A diet consisting entirely of fruit and veg, with no potatoes, grain or nuts (which we're told don't count) should kill anyone fairly quickly.

I should probably be dead then

So far this year my diet has consisted of fresh fruit, and steamed vegetables, with some chicken or fish. not for any reason except that it is all I seem to fancy eating at the moment.

oh, and an entire tub of ben&jerrys choc fudge brownie icecream last Sunday

 

[Zoof]

I should probably be dead then

So far this year my diet has consisted of fresh fruit, and steamed vegetables, with some chicken or fish. not for any reason except that it is all I seem to fancy eating at the moment.

oh, and an entire tub of ben&jerrys choc fudge brownie icecream last Sunday

Wicked

 

[Zoof]

Why can't we just take vitamin and mineral pills?

Hi good morning nice question I suspect, but don't know!

Hold on to the keyboard we may get enlightened.

 

[Zoof]

Recently it's been pretty much confirmed that the traditional fatty western diet both causes and maintains diabetes type 2.

Hi albion good morning

It's the sugar salt & fat plus high levels of carb combination, I suspect.

If you ride over 1500 miles a year, you should be fine; burn it off.

 

[Zoof]

Being healthy, or as healthy as you can be with your individual body, comes from a combination of lifestyle factors not just how much of a particular type of food you eat.

No amount of fruit and veg is likely to compensate for having no exercise and/ or being morbidly obese. A diet consisting entirely of fruit and veg, with no potatoes, grain or nuts (which we're told don't count) should kill anyone fairly quickly.

Eating a reasonable amount of fruit and veg as part of a balanced diet is probably a good idea, although traditional Innuit cuisine (fish mainly) didn't include any and they were healthy.

Health education needs to be far more than just a trite, simple slogan about one thing.

I happen to like fruit and vegetables a lot. I also like fsh a lot. Both are said to be healthy. Some people don't like fish and prefer to have only small amounts of vegetation in their food. Some of them are a lot healthier than I am. Doesn't prove anything.

morning Davidc




Innuit
cuisine (fish mainly) with no vegetables
that's right no heart disease; we still have a lot to learn, this is why I don't like food fad's