Increased police presence.

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lukesdad

Guest
I think you'll find it's impossibly stylish at any hour.
Bollox ! It just makes fat commuters look thin.
 

Frood42

I know where my towel is
[QUOTE 2780583, member: 1314"]Stopped at reds today, bottom of Kennington waiting to turn right towards the Oval at THAT infamous junction. Cyclist next to me started talking to the police officer by the lights.

Cyclist was friendly and charming: "Why you here?"

PO looked as though forced to be there but replied in very badly faked bonhomie: "2 pedestrians and 4 cyclists have died in the last 2 weeks so we're here advising cyclists to be safe and to be seen."

It's tokenistic window dressing now.[/quote]

Did you ask if they were handing out hi viz tabards to people on foot?
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Frood42

I know where my towel is
[QUOTE 2780814, member: 1314"]I don't talk on my commute, now. I'm too cool.[/quote]

innit blud :laugh:

I know wheres my towels is at and tings :whistle:

Was that right..? :rolleyes::tongue:
 

stowie

Legendary Member
Did you ask if they were handing out hi viz tabards to people on foot?
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The other day, I saw a group of school children on a school outing walking along the pavement all with high viz on. It somehow depressed me hugely. If high viz is needed for drivers to see 30 school children noisily making their way to a museum then I think we all need to have a bit of think about what the hell we have done with our streets.
 

stowie

Legendary Member
BTW - have they been doing a speed trap Eastbound on Bow flyover? I went over there the other day and there were a couple of policeman with a speed gun. The driver in front of me got pulled and no question why - he had caned it over the crest of the flyover at way above 30mph. The next driver started to overtake me, saw the camera and backed off but it is downhill and I was probably doing around 25-30 mph so he found himself not able to fully overtake without probably getting nicked. I could almost feel his tension between MGIF and mustn't get a fine.
 

Twelve Spokes

Time to say goodbye again...
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Let's none of us wear lights and dress like ninja's and sod the law then.

I don't get this attitude, sorry.

Early drivers were fewer in number and had fewer cyclists to deal with, the world has changed and in London the amount of people on the roads has exploded.

Was beemer man invented then?

The other day, I saw a group of school children on a school outing walking along the pavement all with high viz on. It somehow depressed me hugely. If high viz is needed for drivers to see 30 school children noisily making their way to a museum then I think we all need to have a bit of think about what the hell we have done with our streets.

I think another reason for that is it's easier for the teachers to keep tabs on the children.
 
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Frood42

I know where my towel is
The other day, I saw a group of school children on a school outing walking along the pavement all with high viz on. It somehow depressed me hugely. If high viz is needed for drivers to see 30 school children noisily making their way to a museum then I think we all need to have a bit of think about what the hell we have done with our streets.

Yes, I have seen these school trains near work, "H&S gone mad I tell you", but then think about those mothers who take the children 5mins into school in a 4x4 and is it any surprise.. no to me.

Although outside my work there is a rather unhelpful crossing they have to use, its dangerous to adults let alone kids, so its no wonder really, but I do find the need to have to put kids in hi viz tabards really very silly.

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Frood42

I know where my towel is
BTW - have they been doing a speed trap Eastbound on Bow flyover? I went over there the other day and there were a couple of policeman with a speed gun. The driver in front of me got pulled and no question why - he had caned it over the crest of the flyover at way above 30mph. The next driver started to overtake me, saw the camera and backed off but it is downhill and I was probably doing around 25-30 mph so he found himself not able to fully overtake without probably getting nicked. I could almost feel his tension between MGIF and mustn't get a fine.

At odd times I have seen coppers West to East with a speed gun at the bottom of the hill (in the centre reservation area), normally on there own.

On the hybrid I cannot top 30mph down that hill, yet, normally I get to about 25mph and freewheel looking to see what the lights are doing on the left and what the traffic is doing as I come down and they look to join the road... or at least should look...

If I do come down the flyover I make sure not to go in the bike lane entrance, but instead use one of the gaps further along, much safer.

I am not convinced they made any provision for the fact that most bikes use the flyover rather than the roundabout though.
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martint235

Dog on a bike
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Welling
I don't see what the issue is with being asked if you've considered hi-viz. I haven't worn a hi viz tabard for years however in light of recent incidents SWMBO has asked if I'd wear it again on the principle of "What harm can it do?". Yes my bike is lit up like a Xmas tree, yes I'm hard to miss at the best of times but something that doesn't inconvenience me, isn't uncomfortable to wear and keeps someone I love happy, what's not to like?
 
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