Increased police presence.

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Because that's how the bike's constructed.
 

EthelF

Rain God
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London
One advantage of the current crackdown is that cars & motorbikes are actually respecting ASLs (so apparently they do know what they are after all). OK, only the particular ASLs being watched by a copper/PCSO at the time (eg Chelsea Bridge north end this morning, PCSO watching one ASL, the other 3 ASLs at the junction all had scooters in them), but at least we now know what it takes to achieve ASL compliance: 4 coppers per junction...
 

Dmcd33

Well-Known Member
Stop behind it and wait for it to move off?

Cyclecraft:


If cyclists want to complain about motorists not signalling then they themselves should follow this basic guidance.

Cyclists too! Interesting to observe in the many CommuterCam videos on you tube how many cyclists (incidental to the point of the footage) fail to indicate or shoulder check when pulling out past stopped traffic or changing lanes

Shoulder checking and indicating do make cars aware of your intentions and I believe make you safer. But having driven for some years in London also. Indicators are becoming an optional extra as I said in an earlier post. The law is the law and none of us have the moral authority to ignore or change it for our own purpose. Drivers, cyclists and pedestrians.
 

RedRider

Pulling through
Do we know why?
What legal reason did he do this for?
No idea, I noticed the lad had headphones on but didn't hear the conversation so don't know whether this was why he was stopped. As you imply, there's no legal problem wearing headphones.
Seemed part of the drive to 'educate' cyclists that's been going on this week. Feeling pretty pissed off about it myself.
 
100 cyclists stopped and lectured about stupid plastic hats.

20 lorry drivers stopped and fifteen were breaking the law-one had been driving for ten hours straight, and was trundling around the capital in a twenty ton lorry.

Where should the cops devote resources?
 
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Davidsw8

Davidsw8

Senior Member
Location
London
100 cyclists stopped and lectured about stupid plastic hats.

20 lorry drivers stopped and fifteen were breaking the law-one had been driving for ten hours straight, and was trundling around the capital in a twenty ton lorry.

Where should the cops devote resources?

People like this:

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/tales-from-todays-commute.105055/post-2780234
 
Why? Unlit cyclists killed nobody in the last year, lorries are responsible for half of all cyclists deaths. It's about making the roads safer, right?
 
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Davidsw8

Davidsw8

Senior Member
Location
London
Why? Unlit cyclists killed nobody in the last year, lorries are responsible for half of all cyclists deaths. It's about making the roads safer, right?

It's totally about making the roads safer but I don't believe that the police should solely concentrate on those behaviours that have directly led to someone dying.

I have made the assumption that you read the whole post and not just highlighted the 'unlit' bicycle aspect. Cycling at night with no lights and wearing dark clothes is not just suicidal, it's against the law and of course the police should do something about that, the same as they should do something about any other law that's been breached. However, this incident isn't just about the 'I couldn't see him until I was a few feet away' aspect, it's also about the fact he was also jeopardising the safety of a child. To be honest, if I was a policeman and I'd caught him doing that, I'd be ringing Social Services.
 
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Davidsw8

Davidsw8

Senior Member
Location
London
Then how come such behaviour is implicated in just 2% of accidents? Early cyclists didn't have lights-it was up to drivers to watch the road and anticipate them, now we're in an arms race of mega-watt lights and cyclists dressed up as if they're driving a frigging bulldozer.

Let's none of us wear lights and dress like ninja's and sod the law then.

I don't get this attitude, sorry.

Early drivers were fewer in number and had fewer cyclists to deal with, the world has changed and in London the amount of people on the roads has exploded.
 
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