In Praise of Air Conditioning

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gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Our next door neighbours apparently have a portable, there's a great big flexi pipe sticking out their window.
It must be working awfully hard, eternally trying to cool the warm air coming in the rest of the open window ?

I'd love aircon, not sure why we never took the leap, 4am, sat awake because I can't sleep with the heat, been the same all this week.
 

johnnyb47

Guru
Location
Wales
Slightly off subject but I've bought one of those neck band fans.
A girl at work has got one and was quiet impressed with it after trying it, so a bought one myself.
 

dicko

Guru
Location
Derbyshire
Our next door neighbours apparently have a portable, there's a great big flexi pipe sticking out their window.
It must be working awfully hard, eternally trying to cool the warm air coming in the rest of the open window ?

I'd love aircon, not sure why we never took the leap, 4am, sat awake because I can't sleep with the heat, been the same all this week.

I made an adaptor for our windows from old piece of translucent plastic sheet. All double glazed window's shut nice and cool indoors.
 
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dicko

Guru
Location
Derbyshire
Here’s our Clark air con unit, bought three summers ago from Machine Mart. I made a window adapter from translucent plastic sheet for exhaust tubing so all double glazed windows closed and nice and cool indoors. It does produce a bucket full of water a day which we feed to our plants.

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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
Hertfordshire, looking towards the Essex borders, yes?

The Herts Himalayas
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
there is something called Little Switzerland near Essendon I think, although having cycled thru it I wasn't convinced
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Sadly at the moment down here among the God forsaken heathen an open window does nothing more than allow a hot sweaty soup of muggy air to flow in.
That's why you open them at night, then close them during the day and let the house insulation keep the heat out. There shouldn't be any need for air con in the Midlands yet this year. Even my retrofitted 35-year-old house can keep cool without it. I thought yours was newer.

A few years ago, where we had a period of sustained 40ish days and 20ish nights, I couldn't cool the house sufficiently overnight and so lost control of the temperature after three days. Then air con might have been useful. For about a week. Still not worth it.

Of course, cars need air con more often, being basically mobile greenhouses, but that can be reduced by using bikes for short journeys. Amusingly, even little "urban heat islands" are better to cycle around because English planners tend to shove cycleways around the edges, where you're in the flow of cool air getting sucked in to go up in the thermal currents generated by the heat island, often with boundary trees offering some shade... meanwhile, motorists are sat in the middle of eight lanes of sweltering blacktop far from any shade... and it's really dark blacktop, without the lighter stone or concrete mixed into road surfaces in more Mediterranean countries, so it gets really hot. Scorchio!

Edit to add: read more. Oh yeah. MS. That makes air con worthwhile. Still shouldn't really be needed yet. Also saw your post reminding me about the extreme solar gain of your windows. I'd add shutters, you added film. Now the test!
 
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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Our next door neighbours apparently have a portable, there's a great big flexi pipe sticking out their window.
It must be working awfully hard, eternally trying to cool the warm air coming in the rest of the open window ?
Yeah, there should be an insulated blanking plate for the pipe to go through. We used to have them in a server room I once worked in. People often don't think these things through. They just fit a bigger unit because it's not working well enough. Same thing people do with boilers for heating. 28kW output? Yikes! 😲

Silliest one I saw was in a corner shop. Air con monoblock unit by the open-fronted fridge, blowing cold air into it. OK. Air pipe running the full width of the shop and out the entrance, blasting customers with toasty hot air on arrival and departure, plus heating the whole shop nicely. The fridge next to the air con was fine, but the packet cakes had condensation running down inside 🤢
 

lazybloke

Ginger biscuits and cheddar
Location
Leafy Surrey
Yeah, there should be an insulated blanking plate for the pipe to go through. We used to have them in a server room I once worked in. People often don't think these things through. They just fit a bigger unit because it's not working well enough. Same thing people do with boilers for heating. 28kW output? Yikes! 😲

That's might be the maximum output. It would likely modulate to a far lower output, and be further restricted when the internal and external thermostats do their thing
 
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