If you're involved in a RTC what do you do?

[Drago]

I've taken to calling them 'Woopsies' in the interests of both accuracy and of not offending any one.

 

[hotfuzzrj]

I've taken to calling them 'Woopsies' in the interests of both accuracy and of not offending any one.

I'm sure a different party altogether will be offended by that one Drago!! ;-)

 

[Rob3rt]

Being "sensitive" must be in fashion!

 

[Miquel In De Rain]

Don't understand it myself, but anything for a quiet life.

Yes and that's why I aim to keep off of hi-viz threads in future.

 

[Hip Priest]

Yes you do. Or at least you have had it explained clearly enough that a reasonable person would understand.

I understand the position held by Glenn and his ilk, but it stems from what I see as a misinterpretation of the word. However, I've agreed not to use the word in that context, and I'd appreciate it if people stopped targeting me about it.

 

[BentMikey]

Thank you very much Hip Priest, I highly appreciate it. My respect for you has gone up considerably, and as before I in no way want you to leave the forum. Plus, again, I'm sorry I lost my rag with you.

 

[fossyant]

Thanks folk.

 

[gambatte]

However, he didnt want my insurance details. I felt a bit guilty not giving them to him but if he doesnt want them then it isnt my fault is it?

I don't understand why you think he'd want them?.. and how many people actually expect cyclists have insurance?
If it had been the other way round, a cyclist being to blame for possible damage... I can't see many asking for insurance details then. That isn't to say they wouldn't expect you to provide ID and to pay. Lack of insurance doesn't mean lack of liability.

 

[Hip Priest]

Thank you very much Hip Priest, I highly appreciate it. My respect for you has gone up considerably, and as before I in no way want you to leave the forum. Plus, again, I'm sorry I lost my rag with you.

No worries man.

We all got a bit het-up last week! January blues maybe.

I can see why you're campaigning to change the language used around RTCs, and if it has a posititive effect and people start taking more responsibilty for their behaviour on the roads, then we all win. I'll stick to 'collision' on here.

 

[Cycling Dan]

Oh and one final tip - check their tax disc subtly. No tax is normally a clear sign of no insurance - check for no disc, an old disc, and if you can, that the right reg is on it.

That is what I would call a top tip
I would never think of that and I doubt most would.

 

[classic33]

1. License details (name, address etc...), contact details, insurance details (probably won't have it), registration.
2. don't say sorry, admission of guilt.
3. what's done is done, pointing blame will gain nothing at this time, if you go down insurance route, police report will be needed. Take pictures of everything before it was moved.
4. Talk about the weather
5. Depends on the seriousness, if it's a light scruff and no one is injured and no property damage, no point.
6. take a few seconds and think, call them if the driver has left, if you think the driver is under the influence of drugs or alcohol, if there is a language problem or if there is damage to yourself or your bicycle.
8. if you're hurt.
9. depends on how they have been towards you and the costs involved. if it's £20 to get a new light or w/e then what is the point in getting the insurance involved.

Get it down on paper, what happenned as soon as possible. It doesn't matter if no-one else can understand it at this stage. If you know what it means you can at a later date write it out correctly & in sequence. Print two copie & then work from one, for all your answers to questions about what happenned. Keep the other safe.
Include conditions, road surface conditions, weather. Direction of travel of all vehicles involved at the time. Road layout. Time of day. If possible back up what you are saying with regards location/road layout with a paper map. On which you indicate your direction of intended travelling & direction actually taken.
Any actions taken by you or others to try & avoid collision.
I spent my first night sat up in a chair, which gave me plenty of time to go over things in my head. Initial record was something like this:
Out of town, up sr. junction, slowup/speedup/him/me/l/r? I knew & still know what it means.

 

[Cycling Dan]

Get it down on paper, what happenned as soon as possible. It doesn't matter if no-one else can understand it at this stage. If you know what it means you can at a later date write it out correctly & in sequence.
Include conditions, road surface conditions, weather. Direction of travel of all vehicles involved at the time. Road layout. Time of day. If possible back up what you are saying with regards location/road layout with a paper map. On which you indicate your direction of intended travelling & direction actually taken.
Any actions taken by you or others to try & avoid collision.
I spent my first night sat up in a chair, which gave me plenty of time to go over things in my head. Initial record was something like this:

Benefit of a camera i guess... good thing i have one. Not so much if you dont and lose your memory

 

[classic33]

Benefit of a camera i guess... good think i have one. Non so much if you dont and lose your memory

I had no camera that night. Just plenty of time to keep on going over what happenned.

 

[fossyant]

Benefit of a camera i guess... good think i have one. Non so much if you dont and lose your memory

Camera doesn't always help, especially if it's not pointing in the right direction.

Most folk are very honest, some not. That's why most of us recommend (INSIST ?) on becoming a British Cycling or CTC member (or that London Commuter thing) if you regularly cycle.

You get access to specialist cycle solicitors (really you need this) and also third party cover - wing mirrors, head imprints in car boots can be expensive - this is covered.

I've used BC's solicitors twice, once many years ago for a minor thing - bike damaged, and their current solicitors over the last 4 years for a lengthy case. Got a good settlement both times (I'd rather not be knocked off) though.

 

[fossyant]

Can I join the love in on this?

A few of the members had the mods tearing our hair out (OK Ian has none)... since Xmas.

It was hard work keeping things level without stomping on in - there was a very noticeable down turn in general mood, which is like what happens in real life.

Give us some sun shine up there in the sky - might be cold but we all need Vitamin D !!