classic33
Leg End Member
Don't shorten CarlP's longest thread, if possible
I expect you've all seen this. Driver tweets about a collision.
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ComedyPilot
Secret Lemonade Drinker
- Location
- The Kingdom of Yorkshire
She's sorry for the tweet, but advised not to say anything about the one thing that really gets my goat, and possibly annoys a lot of reasonable, safe and conscientious drivers/cyclists - the fact (crash fault or not) she left the scene of a crash without checking the other party's welfare.
Does this mean she (and the legal advise) believe justice means nothing about the fact/truth of what happened, rather whether she can get away with it?
I rather she'd kept quiet, and not mewed on telly - cos I have zero empathy for her and her self pity.
Does this mean she (and the legal advise) believe justice means nothing about the fact/truth of what happened, rather whether she can get away with it?
I rather she'd kept quiet, and not mewed on telly - cos I have zero empathy for her and her self pity.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
The solicitor is getting a lot of publicity on prime time news slots, replayed all over the world plus he's getting paid to do it... he must think it's Christmas!
Risex4
Dropped by the autobus
- Location
- The Green/Gray Hills Of Debunshire
Of course she's not going to say anything whilst the subject of an ongoing investigation. Why would she?
Of course, that makes the media train ill-advised, but I do have sympathy for her in wanting to react to the public annihilation and get her side across.
In fact, it adds to my mind the thing which is annoying me must; namely that everyone is taking everything at face value.
The cyclist has changed his story or the details of his story several times. It wasn't as if the incident was serious enough for him to go to the police himself. I don't quite buy the "didn't want to worry my girlfriend" line. Has anyone considered that the tweet was less an actual admission of dangerous driving and more a shock reaction to the events?
That the real events were somewhere in between, that she isn't trying to snake out of it and there is actually mutual fault here? I know if I had been surprised by a cyclist coming out of the blue and clipping my car at speed on their descent on a blind corner I'd have been quite shaken by it. Being 10 years+ older than Ms Way I'd have handled it differently, but maybe in a fit of genuine shock and panic she did "see" that the cyclist was ok (the stories of hedges and what not are embellished) and then having got home, her best coping mechanism of dealing with said worry and shock was to "laugh it off" in the way her generation knows how; by venting a defensive post (not gloating post) on social media.
The equal fault would explain her desire to risk further public ridicule to get her side out; if she knew she was guilty as sin, it'd take some pretty brassy balls to come out in the way she has.
All hypothetically of course. But innocent until proven guilty and all that. I think it's the hang her high without fair trial approach which has got me.
Of course, that makes the media train ill-advised, but I do have sympathy for her in wanting to react to the public annihilation and get her side across.
In fact, it adds to my mind the thing which is annoying me must; namely that everyone is taking everything at face value.
The cyclist has changed his story or the details of his story several times. It wasn't as if the incident was serious enough for him to go to the police himself. I don't quite buy the "didn't want to worry my girlfriend" line. Has anyone considered that the tweet was less an actual admission of dangerous driving and more a shock reaction to the events?
That the real events were somewhere in between, that she isn't trying to snake out of it and there is actually mutual fault here? I know if I had been surprised by a cyclist coming out of the blue and clipping my car at speed on their descent on a blind corner I'd have been quite shaken by it. Being 10 years+ older than Ms Way I'd have handled it differently, but maybe in a fit of genuine shock and panic she did "see" that the cyclist was ok (the stories of hedges and what not are embellished) and then having got home, her best coping mechanism of dealing with said worry and shock was to "laugh it off" in the way her generation knows how; by venting a defensive post (not gloating post) on social media.
The equal fault would explain her desire to risk further public ridicule to get her side out; if she knew she was guilty as sin, it'd take some pretty brassy balls to come out in the way she has.
All hypothetically of course. But innocent until proven guilty and all that. I think it's the hang her high without fair trial approach which has got me.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
Fair points Risex4.
Leodis
Veteran
- Location
- Moortown, Leeds
To a degree I agree, she is now denying what she said but doesnt he have a witness? I probs will be dropped by the CPS.
Cubist
Still wavin'
- Location
- Ovver 'thill
This CP. All too common. People believe they can act with impunity up until the point they are faced with being caught/hard evidence etc. My favourite example is where on several occasions I have drawn up alongside people at traffic lights where they have been using their mobile phone whilst driving. The inevitable exchange goes like this.
Me "Excuse me, can you put your phone down please?"
Reply "What the f*ck has it got to do with you? F*ck off."
Me "I'm a police officer, and you're breaking the law." (Shows warrant card.)
Reply "Sorry, didn't realise you're a policeman."
Me " It shouldn't matter who I am, you're endangering me and other road users. "
There is a very real perception amongst young people that I come across time and time again, and that is as long as you can get away with it you haven't done anything wrong. If anyone sees you doing wrong only people in authority can do anything about it, and if anyone in authority sees you doing wrong they must prove that you have done wrong to absolutely everybody, beyond all doubt. If you tell your parents and friends that you did nothing wrong they will side with you and then you can then continue to claim innocence whilst drawing everybody's attention to what a bastard that person in authority is.
I see that unfolding with this particularly unpleasant woman in this incident.
TBH the police/CPS could do themselves a lot of favours by rolling out a national RoadSafe scheme, and allowing and properly acting on video evidence submitted by the public.
PocketFrog
Northern Monkey
If her side of the story was accurate, would her tweet not have read:
Or is the social status of saying you've knocked a cyclist off a bike more important than the truth?
Emmaway said:
Or is the social status of saying you've knocked a cyclist off a bike more important than the truth?
snorri
Legendary Member
- Location
- East coast, up a bit.
I do miss Max Clifford though
Saluki
World class procrastinator
- Location
- ...Norwich over the water.
You may be getting in a muddle with the Fens there. The Fens are in Cambridgeshire, not Norfolk
Leodis
Veteran
- Location
- Moortown, Leeds
I wonder what statement the first rider gave to the police.
I think its a case of damage limitation for her, she has now denied it and claimed he stopped, she and her vulture lawyer are praying the CPS drop this case and she can go about her life living a lie. The media have totally ignored the previous pictures of her doing 95 and her driving dangerously.
I think its a case of damage limitation for her, she has now denied it and claimed he stopped, she and her vulture lawyer are praying the CPS drop this case and she can go about her life living a lie. The media have totally ignored the previous pictures of her doing 95 and her driving dangerously.
Spinney
Bimbleur extraordinaire
- Location
- Back up north
Spinney
Bimbleur extraordinaire
- Location
- Back up north
one that was posted earlier, but was then taken down...
SquareDaff
Über Member
- Location
- Doncaster, South Yorkshire
A long time ago (when I was about her age) I knocked a young girl from her bike. My natural instinct was to completely stop the car, get out and check she was all right. Having determined that I then moved my car to the side of the road so other traffic could pass, than went back and sat with her for a while just to make doubly sure.
It had been her fault - she'd shot off a pavement from behind a tall hedge straight across a junction without looking, giving me about 0.5sec to react, slam on the brakes and start to stop. Oddly enough I didn't give a damn about whose fault it was - just that I'd hit someone and they could be injured.
After we'd both got going and the shock had settled down a little I went and reported the incident at the local police station in case there were any delayed effects/injuries to the cyclist. I imagine this is exactly what most people on here would do and can't understand why anyone would do otherwise!
It had been her fault - she'd shot off a pavement from behind a tall hedge straight across a junction without looking, giving me about 0.5sec to react, slam on the brakes and start to stop. Oddly enough I didn't give a damn about whose fault it was - just that I'd hit someone and they could be injured.
After we'd both got going and the shock had settled down a little I went and reported the incident at the local police station in case there were any delayed effects/injuries to the cyclist. I imagine this is exactly what most people on here would do and can't understand why anyone would do otherwise!
