How many of you use cadence for training ?

[Citius]

No not trolling just stating the obvious, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I,m trolling.

You don't agree that maintaining a higher cadence requires greater fitness?

 

[midlife]

A higher cadence does not always mean you are doing more work.

Shaun

 

[Venod]

You don't agree that maintaining a higher cadence requires greater fitness?[/QUOT
Of course it requires a greater fitness, I never

You don't agree that maintaining a higher cadence requires greater fitness?

EH

 

[Citius]

EH

So precisely which aspects of what I have been saying all along do you disagree with then? I only ask because earlier you said you didn't agree with me.

 

[midlife]

I think it's because cadence does not equal work (force x distance). It's work that makes the bike go..

Shaun

 

[Citius]

A higher cadence does not always mean you are doing more work.

Shaun

Cadence doesn't really have any influence on work done, which is kind of the point, really. Although, for a given power output, a lower cadence will have less metabolic demand than a higher one.

 

[Citius]

You said if going faster was simply a matter of increasing cadence we would all do it

I disagree with this because increasing cadence in a given gear will make you go faster.

I didn't mean going faster 'momentarily' - I meant going sustainably faster. I assumed that was understood

 

[Venod]

Not sure you're getting this, tbh. Like I said before (maybe you missed it) - trivially, it does. But that higher cadence comes at a cost. You know the rest. Or maybe you don't - which is why I'm having to repeat myself.

Of course I,m getting it, you just have to increase your fitness, have you noticed Chris Froom's cadence?

 

[Citius]

Of course I,m getting it, you just have to increase your fitness, have you noticed Chris Froom's cadence?

I've noticed that it varies depending on what he is doing. Explain to me why Froome is relevant?

 

[Milkfloat]

I think a good way to look at it is to think about cars. In a car for the greatest efficiently you need to be in the right RPM (cadence). To low RPM or too high and you are not burning fuel efficiently. To control the RPM you use the gears and accelerator. Obviously this is not exactly the same as cycling, but is a good analogy. I think the general consensus is that a lot of amateur riders ride in too slow a cadence, so increasing that cadence (RPM) will allow them to be more efficient. However, it seems that different people have a different sweetspot, just like an engine (think petrol v diesel or VTECH versus turbo).

 

[Venod]

I've noticed that it varies depending on what he is doing. Explain to me why Froome is relevant?

because he is an example of a cyclist that predominately uses a high cadence who uses that high cadence to get results.

 

[Citius]

because he is an example of a cyclist that predominately uses a high who used that high cadence to get results.

Someone needs to get back on youtube and watch a bit more of Froome, rather than just the highlights of Stage 10.

 

[midlife]

Cadence does have an effect on work as that's the distance part of the equation.

What a high cadence allows is for a lower level of force to be used. This has a number of advantages for certain individuals.

Shaun

 

[Venod]

Someone needs to get back on youtube and watch a bit more of Froome, rather than just the highlights of Stage 10.

Not sure what your suggesting I watch but wouldn't you agree that Chris is a high cadence rider.

 

[Doyleyburger]

because he is an example of a cyclist that predominately uses a high cadence who uses that high cadence to get results.

Froome is obsessed with cadence and always has been. One of the reasons that made me post this posing question