Citius
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Trivially, yes you will. But for how long?
How many of you use cadence for training ?
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Trivially, yes you will. But for how long?
ayceejay
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I'm sorry citius unless you read what I write and try to grasp what I am saying as I do with what you write it is not possible to discuss this topic sensibly.
For instance I say working to discover an optimum cadence that enables an even effort for a long period you read "maintain the same cadence for 100 miles".
You say "Maintaining an even effort requires you to maintain an even effort" but offer no training technique to achieve this I say I would say that the focus for riding, say a 100 event would be on maintaining an even pace and suggest that training to recognize an optimum cadence would help here.
For instance I say working to discover an optimum cadence that enables an even effort for a long period you read "maintain the same cadence for 100 miles".
You say "Maintaining an even effort requires you to maintain an even effort" but offer no training technique to achieve this I say I would say that the focus for riding, say a 100 event would be on maintaining an even pace and suggest that training to recognize an optimum cadence would help here.
Well if you learn to pedal with an higher cadence I would suggest a long time, of course its not easy ,you have to build up your fitness and it doesn't suit everybody.
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So it wouldn't be possible to ride a 100mi event without cadence* or without having trained cadence then?
*cadence on a screen
ayceejay
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Jeez another one wit no reading comprehension
ayceejay
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Ah, you came back to edit.
Citius
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There is no such thing as an 'optimum' cadence over a long period - unless you are riding on a pan flat, dead straight, smooth road for the aforementioned 'long period'. So training such a thing is pointless. There could be an 'optimum effort level' though - and training that would be so much more useful.
If you want to train yourself to ride long distances at steady efforts, then riding long distances at steady efforts would be a good place to start. Unless you have a better idea?
Still hoping to see your ideas on how 'cadence training' will help, when you get a minute.
Citius
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Two ways of going faster, as follows:
1. pedal the same gear at a higher cadence
2. pedal a higher gear at the same cadence
Both involve making more effort. It's the effort that counts, not the cadence.
Pedal the higher gear at a higher cadence and go faster
ayceejay
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Check my criteria for riding a 100 miles sportive event again and you will see that going faster does not feature. You will also note that the discussion is about training for said event, this training would be an effort to minimize the effort required on the day so that it can be done in relative comfort. Surely I don't need to explain what 'training' means do I?
Citius
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are you trolling?
Citius
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Maybe you should check the meaning yourself? Training will generally have two effects - either
a) the ability to maintain a higher speed for the same effort, or
b) the ability to maintain the same speed, for less effort
I'm still waiting for you to explain how training cadence will help anyone do that.
ayceejay
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No not trolling just stating the obvious, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I,m trolling.
