How can wearing a helmet offer no protection from injury?

[JonnyBlade]

With trousers it is right way around that is important not leg order

That's me put straight

 

[JonnyBlade]

You fail on at least two points.

1. The "obviously the right leg" remark rules out the experience of the monopeds and polypeds amongst us.
2. You make no mention of having your wife's permission to wear the trousers in your house.

Sorry CG I took those points as a given, those things we have no control over

 

[Angelfishsolo]

But I do have an open mind, which is how I went from being an enthusiastic advocate of cycle helmets to where I stand today.

So does that mean that those who take the opposite view have a closed mind?

 

[Wobblers]

You'd expect to see a difference in casualty statistics when more people use helmets, AFAIK this isn't the case.

Now that is an interesting thing.... if helmets do provide protection you would certainly expect to see that show up in the KSI data. You don't. The best epidemiological studies show no correlation between helmet wearing and the probability of death or serious injury. Which rather suggests that helmet use does not offer meaningful protection on the roads.

 

[lukesdad]

But I do have an open mind, which is how I went from being an enthusiastic advocate of cycle helmets to where I stand today.

Thats not quite true is it you were paid to be an enthusiastic advocate by your own admission and now you are not yes ?

You have also made a declaration you are staunch anti helmet in no uncertain terms.

 

[Wobblers]

This one?

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That's not necessarily a result of mandatory helmet use. I'd like to see a statistical analysis in order to demonstrate that it's not down to random chance. And even then, increased speeds, greater numbers of pros, different (possibly riskier) courses could be expected to have an effect - you have to take account of all these factors. Bottom line is, that graph doesn't demonstrate that helmet use increases risk.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

That's not necessarily a result of mandatory helmet use. I'd like to see a statistical analysis in order to demonstrate that it's not down to random chance. And even then, increased speeds, greater numbers of pros, different (possibly riskier) courses could be expected to have an effect - you have to take account of all these factors. Bottom line is, that graph doesn't demonstrate that helmet use increases risk.

Another person with clear vision

 

[Red Light]

Since some of you are so right all the time I'm wondering if you could spare a little advice? When I am putting my trousers on in a morning I usually put my left leg in first and then obviously the right leg. Am I doing this the right way around or should I alternate this procedure. There has to be a scientific comparison and I would hate to be doing the wrong thing

Which ever you do take great care. The last year for which the data was collected by the Home Accident Surveillance System, 5,310 people were taken to hospital for injuries from putting on trousers and another 11,788 for injuries from putting on socks, tights or stockings. Most were from trips during over hasty attempts to dress or tripping on messy bedroom floors.

So best wear a helmet when you get dressed. You know it makes sense.

 

[lukesdad]

Now that is an interesting thing.... if helmets do provide protection you would certainly expect to see that show up in the KSI data. You don't. The best epidemiological studies show no correlation between helmet wearing and the probability of death or serious injury. Which rather suggests that helmet use does not offer meaningful protection on the roads.

I dont think anybody is suggesting that helmets offer significant protection in inccidents of death or major injury.

 

[Red Light]

That's not necessarily a result of mandatory helmet use. I'd like to see a statistical analysis in order to demonstrate that it's not down to random chance. And even then, increased speeds, greater numbers of pros, different (possibly riskier) courses could be expected to have an effect - you have to take account of all these factors. Bottom line is, that graph doesn't demonstrate that helmet use increases risk.

You are correct it doesn't but there are very few options that would lead to such a sudden and dramatic change. Most of the things you suggest would be slow evolutions internationally.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

I dont think anybody is suggesting that helmets offer significant protection in inccidents of death or major injury.

BHIT and Headway do!

 

[lukesdad]

You are correct it doesn't but there are very few options that would lead to such a sudden and dramatic change. Most of the things you suggest would be slow evolutions internationally.

Unless of course you were a pro cyclist intent on making an impact in a fast changing pro sport. Red Light does not have a grasp of pro racing.

 

[JonnyBlade]

Which ever you do take great care. The last year for which the data was collected by the Home Accident Surveillance System, 5,310 people were taken to hospital for injuries from putting on trousers and another 11,788 for injuries from putting on socks, tights or stockings. Most were from trips during over hasty attempts to dress or tripping on messy bedroom floors.

So best wear a helmet when you get dressed. You know it makes sense.

I am so liking this. Nice one RL

Are there any stats on shoe wearing btw?

 

[Red Light]

I am so liking this. Nice one RL

Are there any stats on shoe wearing btw?

379,000 injuries caused by footwear.

 

[JonnyBlade]

When I rode the Mega Meon earlier this year entry was allowed only if you wore protective head gear ie Helmet
Where do Wiggle stand legally should I have an accident? If the wearing of a helmet were to compound my injury are they not liable?