Hi Viz

[Accy cyclist]

Coalminers....

what....the....

Just in case a rogue vehicle takes a detour down a mineshaft?

If i remember rightly miners wore bright orange boilersuits when employed by the NCB.

 

[Jon George]

I don't wear Hi-Viz while cycling, but my lycra has a fair amount of reflective brand advertising that I'd prefer was just plain reflective strips. The biggest difference I have noticed recently to my general sense of confidence is the subtle adjustment of my riding style which primary position has given - after following links about the subject on here. The number of cars accelerating to overtake me and then braking at a traffic island, for instance, may increased but, so far, no irate hooting. It's my contention that this sort of assertive attitude to cycling far out-ways any kneejerk political remedy to cycling injuries/fatalities.

 

[classic33]

Some people however are simply not taking this seriously enough!

I thought he'd been done/told off for carrying he's children on that bike!

 

[classic33]

....my scythe stands out a bit though.

Blade needs edging, looking a bit blunt, to me!

 

[Hitchington]

I accept that most on here won't agree with me but in the winter I feel that wearing a hi-viz jacket or vest makes me more visible to other road users and sends a message that I want to be noticed . I don't feel daft for wearing one.

 

[summerdays]

I accept that most on here won't agree with me but in the winter I feel that wearing a hi-viz jacket or vest makes me more visible to other road users and sends a message that I want to be noticed . I don't feel daft for wearing one.

I don't have a problem about wearing hi-vis, it is being told to wear it. I think in some situations it will help, but not all the time. But I choose to wear a bright coat rather than the ubictuous yellow vest and rarely bother in summertime.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Yes I see them.
I would like to think that every sensible driver would see a cyclist even in camo.
But not all drivers are sensible.
Maybe that means that they might not see me whatever I wear.
But I don't believe that.
I cycled from Kingston to Waterloo bridge today.
I defo felt safer having on my hi vis and various lights.
Its about maximising the odds.

it has nothing, not a jot, not a bean to with being a driver being sensible. NOTHING. Go read the book referenced earlier in the thread,

I can claim I feel safer with a rabbits foot on my key ring. Does that MAKE me safer? No.

If we stopped listening to our own mistaken intuition and our beliefs, which are based on nothing but faith, and started taking note of what behavioural psychologists and other scientists can tell us about driver behaviour we'd realise that hi-viz doesn't shift the odds enough in our favour to make it worth buying.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I accept that most on here won't agree with me but in the winter I feel that wearing a hi-viz jacket or vest makes me more visible to other road users and sends a message that I want to be noticed . I don't feel daft for wearing one.

Feel?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

If high viz isn't easier to see than black how come the emergency services and their vehicles,road workers,coalminers, lollypop ladies/men to name but a few wear high viz?!

How far up the hierarchy of safe working practise in dangerous environments do you think hi-viz kit comes?

And can you cite any study upon which the decision to clad lollypop people in hi-viz was based? Thought not.

Like it or not but an awful lot that our intuition tells us is right is wrong.

 

[Hitchington]

Feel?

That's right, I don't feel daft.

 

[oldstrath]

That happened yesterday, I signalled and wanted a gap, instead the motorist sped up ... So I moved out afterwards and looked at her now parked at the back of a queue of cars for temporary traffic lights. Unfortunately she didn't notice me passing her because she was busy tapping away on her phone Making me crosser!

Presume your reported her?

 

[youngoldbloke]

Just as running a car with dipped headlights enhances its visibilty to other road users, the wearing of light coloured or 'hi vis' clothing by pedestrians and cyclists, as recommended by the highway code, helps make them visible earlier than they would otherwise be to other road users. It is not a question of 'not seeing'.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

That's right, I don't feel daft.

But you feel it makes you more safe?

Just as running a car with dipped headlights enhances its visibilty to other road users, the wearing of light coloured or 'hi vis' clothing by pedestrians and cyclists, as recommended by the highway code, helps make them visible earlier than they would otherwise be to other road users. It is not a question of 'not seeing'.

Got any science to back up that intuition? And having seen you earlier how do you know that will make any difference to the drivers behaviour?

It is almost entirely a question of 'not seeing' so your intuition is wrong there too.

 

[Tim Hall]

Found this:

http://knightstemplarmtc.com/reviews/iconmilspechivizvest/

A Hi Vis vest that......

Somewhere in/on the jacket Icon have sown in a St Christopher Medallion (the patron Saint of travellers),

What do I win?

 

[summerdays]

Presume your reported her?

Wouldn't do any good if I did. I think it's only in London that you can?