Helmets why doesn't everyone wear them?

[mrandmrspoves]

ECT can be dangerous - but cannot be administered if you're wearing a cycle helmet!

 

[mrandmrspoves]

...Although to be serious for a few seconds, ECT is a controversial treatment and has many critics - but I have seen it work on many occasions and where someone is depressed to the degree of being actively suicidal, ECT can be a life saver.

 

[mrandmrspoves]

Just to clarify further......you can administer ECT while wearing a cycle helmet - but you cannot have ECT administered to you while wearing a cycle helmet......... I hope this is helpful to anyone planning to have a course of ECT in the near future....

 

[Norm]

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Actually you'd normally look at a course of 4-6 sessions...
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Yeah, but back to back like that?

 

[Kookas]

Fallen off my mountain bike about once a year now, every time because of pushing my luck on a wet surface. Not once did I hit my head. In fact, I have never come close to hitting my head falling off a bike, ever. My thighs, shoulder and elbow have always taken the force of the impact, plus the size of my bike gives me some protection from falls.

Also, cars don't give me much grief (they all overtake well, some even give way to me when I am turning right), so I don't really feel threatened by them.

But if I got a road bike (as I plan to) then I probably will wear a helmet. Until that day, my head rides free.

 

[GrasB]

A guy is riding along at 25-30mph & is left hooked. He hits a pot hole mid-corner & is thrown over the handle bars performing a very undignified cartwheel. He was left with bad road rash on his right forearm, deep gouge on the ball of his right & left shoulder, bad road rash on his left forearm, light road rash on his left hip & further bad road rash on his left shin plus ankle. He was wearing a lose fitting red bandanna which had oily mud streaks on it in the direction he rolled over.

He walked away... okay he didn't so much walk away as hobble away with the help of witnesses.Had he been wearing a helmet it almost certainly would have been destroyed by the impact (the bike stopped dead but he carried on at 25-30mph!) , he would have probably been left him with a concussion & everyone would be saying his helmet saved his life. This is why a heavy head impact isn't a good indicator that a helmet actually was a meaningful safety device in a given situation.

 

[albion]

...Although to be serious for a few seconds, ECT is a controversial treatment and has many critics - but I have seen it work on many occasions and where someone is depressed to the degree of being actively suicidal, ECT can be a life saver.

The best that can be said is that the cells are invigorated just before the point of destruction.

I read it as 'kill off loads of brain cells' and hope that amongst them you also get the ones causing depression.

 

[mrandmrspoves]

The best that can be said is that the cells are invigorated just before the point of destruction.

I read it as 'kill off loads of brain cells' and hope that amongst them you also get the ones causing depression.

Albion - you can read it as anything you like! (But you're wrong)
I understand that ECT is controversial - even though it is a lot less brutal than most major surgery that is carried out.
If it didn't work I would agree that it should not be administered.....but it does work and leaving someone in a severely depressed state is a lot more brutal than administering a potentially effective treatment.

 

[Rob3rt]

You lot all read ECT as Electroconvulsive therapy whilst I read it as Electrical Capacitance Tomography

 

[albion]

... even though it is a lot less brutal than most major surgery that is carried out.

Well it found favour after lobotomies ceased.
To be fair, a boozy Friday night can be compared too but that is accepted tradition.

Wiki

"The aim of ECT is to induce a therapeutic clonic seizure (a seizure where the person loses consciousness and has convulsions) lasting for at least 15 seconds. Although a large amount of research has been carried out, the exact mechanism of action of ECT remains elusive. ECT doctors claim it may "jumpstart the brain", helping boost neurotransmission, while others like Peter Breggin,[citation needed] claim it causes the "euphoric" effects similar to the effects found in "closed head injury" or people with fresh traumatic brain injury"

 

[mrandmrspoves]

Well it found favour after lobotomies ceased.

.......and your point is?

 

[albion]

A logical analysis of how it sometimes works is that it kills brain cells so others kick in to start euphorically afresh.
One flew over the cuckoos nest is an exaggeration but I'm sure there is plenty of data out there that it lowers IQ.

No different from a bang on the head?

 

[Tim Hall]

As eny fule no, "ect ect" is how molesworth speke. Chiz chiz.

 

[lukesdad]

Fallen off my mountain bike about once a year now, every time because of pushing my luck on a wet surface. Not once did I hit my head. In fact, I have never come close to hitting my head falling off a bike, ever. My thighs, shoulder and elbow have always taken the force of the impact, plus the size of my bike gives me some protection from falls.

Also, cars don't give me much grief (they all overtake well, some even give way to me when I am turning right), so I don't really feel threatened by them.

But if I got a road bike (as I plan to) then I probably will wear a helmet. Until that day, my head rides free.

Once a year im lucky if i only come off once a week! what sort of mtbing do you do ?

 

[mrandmrspoves]

A logical analysis of how it sometimes works is that it kills brain cells so others kick in to start euphorically afresh.
One flew over the cuckoos nest is an exaggeration but I'm sure there is plenty of data out there that it lowers IQ.

No different from a bang on the head?

..so I am assuming that you have had a good few courses of ECT?