Has your helmet saved your life poll

[Pedrosanchezo]

Really? On a personal level I find it hard to believe that you never walk anywhere ever, and even if that's true, do you really have no thought for the millions of people who do? There are far more of them than there are cyclists

:troll:

 

[Dan B]

Please assume from now on smart arsed comments will get provoke smart arsed answers........

That's somebody's sig material

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

That's somebody's sig material

What is and who's?

 

[ufkacbln]

I COULD NOT CARE ABOUT PEDESTRIANS AND HELMETS!!!! Is that clear this time or do you think you will continue to quote the same sections over and over?? I ONLY care about cycling helmets and their effectiveness.

The fact YOU keep ignoring this and instead insist on going on (and on) about ......

"given a pedestrian and a cyclist suffering the same impact would both benefit, or one one benefit more from a helmet than the other"

Afterward maybe we can see if we can test wheelchair users and cyclists at the same low speed. Then children in prams. Then runners. Then dogs, cats, turtles, snails and kangaroos.

Or maybe we can just stick to the subject of cycle helmets!!!!!

No one appears to be able to get you to see that this is the relevant subject!!!

That, dear Watson, is what's tragic.

I've already covered cats...

I think we can all see that you are not going to answer the question as it will compromise your argument..... your statement unequivocally fails to justify helmets for a single group, and you cannot argue this case unless you include other groups. The lengths you have gone to avoid this are admirable and the tantrum where you have refused to discuss your own claims a classic

Lets go back to the original statement

I I choose because i believe hitting your head on the road or hard surface can be improved upon with the aid of a helmet. It's my head thanks..

 

[Drago]

See, here's my thoughts.

In terms of crash protection I'm not at all confident it will save my life in a huge impact. I might get lucky, but if tank commander Sven Volvo smashes into me at 40 MPH I'm likely doomed.

My thoughts (and they are just thoughts as I'm not in the habit of testing it for myself) is the kind of lower speed impact where it might result in an unpleasant but probably not life-threatening injury is where the lid might help. But even then its not guaranteed, and there's also the small possibility of torque injury to the neck cause by enlarging the circumference of the head.

So I wear my lid in the reckoning (not belief) that it won't save me from anything really nasty, it might reduce the likelyhood or severity of a lesser injury. But it might not. Conversely, not wearing it won't protect me from anything at all.

So I wear it and hope for the best really, while expecting that the worst is still probably coming my way if the brown stuff hits the bladed rotating object.

It's on my noggin because "might" is better odds than "wont", but I ain't kidding myself.

 

[Norm]

...since you seem to be obsessed by hunting in packs, one's a curmudgeon I've met and like, one's a curmudgeon I've never met who blows hot and cold and one's a curmudgeon who frankly goes on a bit.

I'd ask which one was me, but we've never met so I don't want to know.

 

[ufkacbln]

Is this recommended for general domestic cat use - or just for when cycling?

Wherever your cat decides..

Alternatively there is always:


Cats with fruit on their heads

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

I've already covered cats...

I think we can all see that you are not going to answer the question as it will compromise your argument..... your statement unequivocally fails to justify helmets for a single group, and you cannot argue this case unless you include other groups. THe lengths you have gone to avoid this are admirable and the tantrum where yoi have refused to discuss your own claims a classic

Lets go back to the original statement

I like the cat helmet.

Why you keep pushing this is beyond me.

Okay fine. If an inanimate object falls from the same height it will make no difference.

Lets base it on two similar solo falls. Both same age, both sober. Think thats fair and doesn't factor in any other variables.

If a cyclist falls whilst on a bike then the chances of protecting himself from the fall is lesser to that of a pedestrian who has no bike to contend with and therefor can move more freely to instinctively protect themselves. A person spends less time on a bike so therefor will be more in sync in a walking position. A position the person spends a far greater amount of time.

That is my opinion. Happy?

Bed time.

 

[Drago]

If a cyclist falls whilst on a bike and there's no one around, does he make any noise.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

See, here's my thoughts.

In terms of crash protection I'm not at all confident it will save my life in a huge impact. I might get lucky, but if tank commander Sven Volvo smashes into me at 40 MPH I'm likely doomed.

My thoughts (and they are just thoughts as I'm not in the habit of testing it for myself) is the kind of lower speed impact where it might result in an unpleasant but probably not life-threatening injury is where the lid might help. But even then its not guaranteed, and there's also the small possibility of torque injury to the neck cause by enlarging the circumference of the head.

So I wear my lid in the reckoning (not belief) that it won't save me from anything really nasty, it might reduce the likelyhood or severity of a lesser injury. But it might not. Conversely, not wearing it won't protect me from anything at all.

So I wear it and hope for the best really, while expecting that the worst is still probably coming my way if the brown stuff hits the bladed rotating object.

It's on my noggin because "might" is better odds than "wont", but I ain't kidding myself.

Jeez brave man entering this. Get out whilst theres still time, no one has seen your post yet.

 

[ufkacbln]

Then dogs, cats, turtles, snails and kangaroos.

OK then....


Dog with helmet:

Cat with helmet:

Turtle with helmet:

Snail with helmet:

Kangaroo with helmet:

 

[Drago]

Jeez brave man entering this. Get out whilst theres still time, no one has seen your post yet.

Well y'know, I partake but on more of a "I might possibly get lucky" basis than a "it's pretty much guaranteed to save my bacon" standpoint. It certainly won't save me if I don't wear it.

It's like the lottery. I know I'll never win the jackpot but continue to doggedly buy my ticket because I know full well that the first week I don't is when my 6 numbers come up.

 

[Norm]

Kangaroo with helmet:

Is that a kangaroo? Looks more like a boxer to me.

 

[ufkacbln]

I like the cat helmet.

Why you keep pushing this is beyond me.

Because you have on several occasions justified pedestrian helmets alongside cycle helmets!

Okay fine. If an inanimate object falls from the same height it will make no difference.

I can resist replying to that one, it is all too obvious a reply!

Lets base it on two similar solo falls. Both same age, both sober. Think thats fair and doesn't factor in any other variables.

... and then proceeds to prevaricate and add variables again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If a cyclist falls whilst on a bike then the chances of protecting himself from the fall is lesser to that of a pedestrian who has no bike to contend with and therefor can move more freely to instinctively protect themselves. A person spends less time on a bike so therefor will be more in sync in a walking position. A position the person spends a far greater amount of time.

That is my opinion. Happy?

Bed time.

 

[Drago]

Soooo... who uses condoms?