Has your helmet saved your life poll

[Pedrosanchezo]

You forgot accurate and true?




So you would take the evidence of someone like John Heyworth , Chair of the Association for Emergency Medicine as a credible source when he talks about helmets?

Should we rely on his testimony and act upon it without question?



More importantly - You need to learn the difference between discredit and point out the genuine restrictions, and limitations.

Of course giving evidence and information that shows helmets are not the wonderful lifesavers some would have us believe can be uncomfortable, but it enables an individual to make a genuine informed decision..... surely you understand that?

As for credible evidence, when it was offered you stated you had absolutely no interest

I didn't forget.

I don't need to take anyones evidence or opinion on helmet safety really do i?? It's all about individual choice. You know mine. I choose because i believe hitting your head on the road or hard surface can be improved upon with the aid of a helmet. It's my head thanks.

I stand by discredit, especially when you take it upon yourself to try and prove my own helmets are as much use to me sitting in the garage whilst i am out on my bike.

Never said they were "wonderful lifesavers". Quote me if i did. I said that even if they added 1% better protection that might be the difference between living and dying.

I have not seen evidence that would make me stop wearing a helmet nor have i called for you to wear one so i have no idea what your problem is.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

Hey, I'm in the cycle industry, surely that makes my opinion every bit as valid as someone in the medical profession?

You claimed to have provided proof that helmets 'do what they say on the box' (metaphorically, because actually they don't make any claims about their ability to prevent head injuries). Unfortunately the evidence you provided was shown, in it's own words, to be invalid. That's a fail. Right? Or are we using different laws of logic?

Again, if you will, please provide some evidence that cycle helmets deliver a net benefit to cyclists, or that they reduce the likelyhood or severity of head injuries in cyclists.
When you eventually give up looking I hope you'll have a quiet think with yourself about why, if helmets really do protect against head injuries, why there's not a scrap of evidence available.
I suggest you start with the helmet manufacturers first.

I am afraid i don't have time to reply to everyone here. Apologies. I am about to go my turbo trainer (with my helmet).
I would rather do this with something protecting my head than do it with nothing but air in between. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

don't talk to me about the truth , you can't handle the truth , I doudt your truth handling abilites



re - a few good men ( terrible film and they really said that)

Best film ever. :troll:

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

Have you?

Are you suggesting there is NO evidence at all Norm or just that i haven't shown any?? Or more importantly is it just not evidence you deem fit so it gets shoved to the side. My fault, i should really be more accommodating.

 

[david k]

Which is all fine, you recognise that it is a fear based decision, that is emotional not rational. I have no problem with that at all. When people seek to translate that into government policy on th other hand that is another matter entirely.

i didnt see him mention policy in his post? why bring up compulsion again when its not been mentioned?

 

[theclaud]

I am afraid i don't have time to reply to everyone here. Apologies.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

Thank you for recognising at last that you made an erroneous claim, recognising that you had failed to substantiate your original claim and now rectifying your statement to something closer to reality



How can I post something and brush past it?

ALl you need to do is point to a news paragraph, statement, video or recording where Wiggins stated that a helmet saved his skin or had a beneeficial effect in this accident in this accident...................... I await with bated breath

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If this argument was going somewhere towards resolving the issue i would make time to reply but frankly what you are asking is once again over pedantic.

Wether Wiggins referred to postman pat on a bike, a random cyclist or his own situation is irrelevant. He still said it! Is that not the part that matters......?

If you want to go on quoting posts and seeing if i crossed my T's and dotted my i's then please consider yourself just behind Cornation street in terms of priority. For clarity, i don't watch Corrie.

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

The Claud

I feel i won't miss you that much. I appreciate the sentiment. It's been emotional.

 

[theclaud]

please consider yourself just behind Cornation street in terms of priority. For clarity, i don't watch Corrie.

He's here all week, folks!

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

He's here all week, folks!

Is that the bullying starting again.
I am very sensitive. I might very well become suiciudal, you know do something like ride my bike without a helmet!!!

 

[ufkacbln]

May be me being pedantic, but can you make up your mind?

First of all you post that Wiggins has stated that hie helmet "saved his skin... then you agree to change your statement recognising he didn't...

Okay i will change that to Sutton claimed a helmet saved his skin and Wiggins claimed helmets will save your life. Happy enough?? .

Then you go back to claiming he made the statement after all......

Wether Wiggins referred to postman pat on a bike, a random cyclist or his own situation is irrelevant. He still said it! I[/quote]

You aren't even agreeing with yourself

Lets make it clear... Are you stating that Wiggins claimed that a helmet saved his skin or not?

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

May be me being pedantic, but can you make up your mind?

First of all you post that Wiggins has stated that hie helmet "saved his skin... then you agree to change your statement recognising he didn't...



Then you go back to claiming he made the statement after all......


Wether Wiggins referred to postman pat on a bike, a random cyclist or his own situation is irrelevant. He still said it! I

You aren't even agreeing with yourself

Lets make it clear... Are you stating that Wiggins claimed that a helmet saved his skin or not?[/quote]
The first thing you do, after i ask not to be quoted repeatedly, is quote me. Okay with that in mind KEEP PESTERING ME!!

I am saying that Wiggins claimed a helmet will save everybody's skin. I suppose that includes his yes.

 

[ufkacbln]

I didn't forget.

I don't need to take anyones evidence or opinion on helmet safety really do i?? It's all about individual choice. You know mine. I choose because i believe hitting your head on the road or hard surface can be improved upon with the aid of a helmet. It's my head thanks.

Does that include when walking, or is there a magical way that it won't hurt if you are not ona bike?

I stand by discredit, especially when you take it upon yourself to try and prove my own helmets are as much use to me sitting in the garage whilst i am out on my bike.

Not discredit, simply point out that the evidence shows that there are helmets that could further improve your protection. If you are not interested in improving your protection then that is your choice.

Never said they were "wonderful lifesavers". Quote me if i did. I said that even if they added 1% better protection that might be the difference between living and dying.

Again if they offer 1% better protection for pedestrians, the argument is unequivocal for you to wear one when walking?

I have not seen evidence that would make me stop wearing a helmet nor have i called for you to wear one so i have no idea what your problem is.

So it was a big boy who stole your login details ,posted about how children should be made to wear helmets and ran away then?

 

[ufkacbln]

I would rather do this with something protecting my head than do it with nothing but air in between. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

MELON TIME!

 

[Pedrosanchezo]

Does that include when walking, or is there a magical way that it won't hurt if you are not ona bike?

Does that include sitting in the bath, taking a shower, sitting in the pub, mowing the lawn, playing chess and running with scissors?? Thought we were talking about cycling?