Hamilton; surely he's not going to blow it again? Is he?

[Andy in Sig]

ah, but the difference between a game and a sport is that in a game the protagonists take turns and cannot directly affect their opponent. tiddlywinks is thus clearly a game, and f1 a sport.

Now that's a very fair point on the face of it, but then what about things like shot putting and spear chucking? You have to take turns in them and according to my idea, they are sports.

 

[Andy in Sig]

What about masturbation?

I don't know. Do tell us all about it.

 

[alecstilleyedye]

Now that's a very fair point on the face of it, but then what about things like shot putting and spear chucking? You have to take turns in them and according to my idea, they are sports.

as, indeed, is the cycling time trial, pursuit etc

 

[Andy in Sig]

Now if we were in the government, at this point we would establish a commission to decide what is a sport or not. On the one hand we have a spectrum running from Iron Man to Tiddly Winks and on the other from Synchronised Swimming to F1.

 

[Chuffy]

Someone else here with an equally crap individual definition of sport.

I assume he's taking the mickey. I'm not so sure about you Andy, I think you might actually be serious.

 

[Andy in Sig]

Well I'm taking part in this debate because it's good fun. OTH I do seriously think that F1 cannot be regarded as a sport and that got me thinking as to how we define what is a sport, hence me coming up with the suggestion of that principle as an acid test. I'm open to other suggestions but so far it does seem to be fitting the bill. Incidentally while I was quite amused to be put in the same bag as bonj, he was making the demonstrably false claim that horse riding doesn't constitute exercise and of course there is fitness involved in it as there is in F1. It's just that IMO neither of them are sports as the bulk of the work is done by the mount in each case.

 

[Smokin Joe]

No work is done by the car in motor racing. Sit it on the grid without a driver and it is usless.

 

[Andy in Sig]

Ah, but you could put a computer in charge of the controls and the car would do the business!

 

[Andy]

Ah, but you could put a computer in charge of the controls and the car would do the business!

You could put a computer in charge of a bike and it would do the business!!

Ahhh, Bruyneel has already done that hasn't he!!

 

[Aperitif]

You could put a computer in charge of a bike and it would do the business!!

Ahhh, Bruyneel has already done that hasn't he!!

The computer would be knackered after helpful fans throw water over it on the uphill bits...
No one can chuck stuff on the track at F1

 

[Andy]

The computer would be knackered after helpful fans throw water over it on the uphill bits...
No one can chuck stuff on the track at F1

They did a few years ago at the mad US Grand Prix at Indianapolis when only a few cars actually raced because of tyre problems. They all lined up on the grid then pulled into the pits after the warm up lap, at least the majority of them did.
Problem was I think with Good Year tyres that the company said would not be safe on the certain parts of the track and surface and could not guarantee they would not delaminate and fly off. So only the Michelin shod cars actually raced, I think leaving six cars in all to compete.

Fans were throwing all sorts onto the track at one point.....I say all sorts, mainly Budweiser and Burgers...it was America after all!!

 

[Aperitif]

They did a few years ago at the mad US Grand Prix at Indianapolis when only a few cars actually raced because of tyre problems. They all lined up on the grid then pulled into the pits after the warm up lap, at least the majority of them did.
Problem was I think with Good Year tyres that the company said would not be safe on the certain parts of the track and surface and could not guarantee they would not delaminate and fly off. So only the Michelin shod cars actually raced, I think leaving six cars in all to compete.

Fans were throwing all sorts onto the track at one point.....I say all sorts, mainly Budweiser and Burgers...it was America after all!!

A bottle of Bud takes my dog 500 laps...

 

[hackbike 6]

Im not into motor racing but I watched the last few laps of this race and it was fantastic.

I knew he would do it.He knew how to handle that car.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Skiing and snowboarding would I think be definitely sports. Toboganning and luge, probably because while you are right in that they hinge on gravity, the players put in the power to make it work but those two are very borderline. Sailing and land yachting are also border line but strike me as being a bit more of a sport.

Diving isn't a sport to me along with gymnastics (incredibly physically demanding as it is) simply because it involves people awarding scores i.e. it is judged as opposed to being measured against the clock etc.

I'm not claiming to have got a cast iron principle but I do think it provides a good general test.

You're talking crap. who says that a sport has to rely on human energy? You're thinking of exercise - the essence of sport is competition.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Now that's a very fair point on the face of it, but then what about things like shot putting and spear chucking? You have to take turns in them and according to my idea, they are sports.

Hey ... wait a minute ... could it be that your idea is (gasp) incorrect and oversimplistic?