Froome and Wiggins TUEs

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

How I would hate to have my future and reputation hanging on Sky's record keeping and David Brailsford's public assurances....

Up shoot creek without a paddle, speaking of rowing...

 

[NickNick]

From another source.... a wee bit worrying, one must admit
When salbutamol is inhaled In normal therapeutic doses it acts as a bronchodilator. It will increase airflow in an asthmatic airway but will have a negligible effect on anyone without the condition.
When it is taken orally in much higher doses it can have an anabolic effect (increasing muscle mass), increase lipolysis (fat burning) and have an effect on blood lactate and potassium (increasing endurance). It also increases metabolism and may help mask the use of other drugs being taken.

The section in bold is particularly interesting.

 

[Buddfox]

From another source.... a wee bit worrying, one must admit
When salbutamol is inhaled In normal therapeutic doses it acts as a bronchodilator. It will increase airflow in an asthmatic airway but will have a negligible effect on anyone without the condition.
When it is taken orally in much higher doses it can have an anabolic effect (increasing muscle mass), increase lipolysis (fat burning) and have an effect on blood lactate and potassium (increasing endurance). It also increases metabolism and may help mask the use of other drugs being taken.

What is the source?

 

[jowwy]

Anywho back to Froome , I surprised he managed to fail on the Salbutamol as he's been taking it for years without going over the limit.

But he did fail and by a large amount

 

[jowwy]

A missed test is a failed test, as you already know. I know your a fan of Wighat , and why not, but he's a pro sportsman and not your bro' so you don't need to defend his honour so vigourously. Unless you've invested in his brand ofc.

There's no way I'm clicking on a DM link , my computer would sulk for days if I did.

I can defend him as vigorously as I see fit to do so, in the same way as people on this thread have slated in anyway which they can.........and if you don't like it then ignore my posts

 

[hoopdriver]

But he did fail and by a large amount

Which suggests something very unusual. Given that he was leading the race at the time and is such a high profile racer he would have been tested daily, and known he was going to be tested daily, I can’t see this being anything other than a genuine screw up.

 

[mjr]

Interesting. So they have to show excellent record keeping in order to show what Froome was dosed with having spent the last year arguing their medical records were a total shambles!

Are there inhalers which record activation dates/times, maybe over bluetooth to the Garmin or whatever that Froome spends so much time gazing lovingly at? If he's left this record-keeping to Team Sky, he's probably farked.

its irrespective of whether its a banned substance or a TUE, its use is only permitted within certain levels..........Froome shows double the levels of permitted use and therefore failed a drugs test. The same as contador, valverde, ullisi, pertachi et al

Contador was done for a different drug and Valverde for blood doping, so clearly they're not the same. Petacchi's ban from 2007 was before salbutamol was removed from the banned list in 2010, although I think he had a TUE. The only similar case is Ulissi, who tried and failed to show it was permitted use producing an adverse analytical finding. Let's wait and see what they decide about Froome?

 

[jowwy]

Which suggests something very unusual. Given that he was leading the race at the time and is such a high profile racer he would have been tested daily, and known he was going to be tested daily, I can’t see this being anything other than a genuine screw up.

He was tested daily and on this day, he took 30 puffs too many on his inhaler...........

 

[Joffey]

But most of those tablets aren't performance enhancing in any meaningful way, corticosteroids on the other hand...

I'm not sure that Salbutamol is performance enhancing per se

 

[nickyboy]

Which suggests something very unusual. Given that he was leading the race at the time and is such a high profile racer he would have been tested daily, and known he was going to be tested daily, I can’t see this being anything other than a genuine screw up.

Who knows? It was after the ITT, maybe he was completely cooked on the next stage and everyone panicked a bit and a miscalculation was made. It's been shown with very careful management it is possible to take PEDs and avoid failing tests. People who take stuff they shouldn't be taking and then fail a drug test do so because they got something wrong in the management process

 

[jowwy]

Boo! Hiss!
Let's speculate like it's 1999

Correct.......like they did in the 1st 46 pages of this thread........but now it's turned towards froome, they no longer want to speculate or insult

 

[Adam4868]

Cyclist has asthma.......cyclists asks doc for inhaler/medicine......doc gives it to him.....someone farked up.....? It wont be Froome.

 

[mjr]

Correct.......like they did in the 1st 46 pages of this thread........but now it's turned towards froome, they no longer want to speculate or insult

I've speculated more about Froome today than I ever did about Wiggins but you probably missed that because you're so busy self-gratifying about Wiggo with spin and misdirection.

 

[rich p]

Correct.......like they did in the 1st 46 pages of this thread........but now it's turned towards froome, they no longer want to speculate or insult

WTF are you on about?
I spend a fair amount of time in this section and have yet to spot anyone who has any axe to grind either way...

...with one obvious exception, that is.

 

[FishFright]

I have a nice axe to hand for both of them if that helps , double edged too !