Froome and Wiggins TUEs

[Rickshaw Phil]

according to the thread title this thread is about froome and wiggins Tues, is wiggins now off limits, if so, why.

Apologies, the moderator note was unclear. Wiggins TUEs aren't off limits provided they are relevant to the discussion at hand. However, some have been dragging up old disagreements relating to them and disrupting the thread. We want that to stop.

 

[nickyboy]

It has also been shown that dehydration can dramatically affect the amount that shows up in a urine test, so don’t jump the gun - however much fun that might be for you. It is entirely possible, and I would say likely, that this is a genuine and innocent screw up

Ide speculation is what the internet is made for. Your idle speculation that it is likely to be a genuine and innocent screw up is on a par with mine that it might not be

 

[hoopdriver]

Ide speculation is what the internet is made for. Your idle speculation that it is likely to be a genuine and innocent screw up is on a par with mine that it might not be

Ever heard of Occam’s Razor? The simplest explanation is the most likely to be the correct one. It doesn’t get much simpler than an innocent cock-up

 

[Adam4868]

Wiggins and I think Froome have had TUE for this, which was revealed by Fancy Bears HT, from back when you had to, so it's strongly related.

Ok i stand corrected,i didnt know you needed a TUE for salbutamol.

 

[hoopdriver]

Ok i stand corrected,i didnt know you needed a TUE for salbutamol.

You don’t

 

[Siclo]

It'll come down to the politics of the situation and now it's in the public domain I don't think it looks good for him. The UCI will want to put daylight between themselves and Sky following Cookson's departure, particularly with the press that Sky have been attracting for some time.

ASO want a TdF winner not named Froome and RCS have got to be a bit narked too.

Braifords's language in his statement is interesting too, the emphasis being on 'chris' as an individual not on the team. I wonder if that's a bit of revenge for Froome's reluctance to back him publicly previously.

All that said this is the UCI, so you never know

 

[Siclo]

Ok i stand corrected,i didnt know you needed a TUE for salbutamol.

As @hoopdriver says, you don't now, but @mjr is correct that both Froome and Wiggins had one. The requirement for a TUE was removed in 2010.

 

[NickNick]

You don’t

You do for high doses.

 

[Joffey]

This made me chuckle

View: https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/940834740025876480

As knowledgable about the history of the sport as Cillion is he is the biggest Sky-hater on Twitter and will be delighted with this news (despite saying he isn't).

I had to unfollow him, it's like Sky did something to him. Maybe they didn't send him a free book.

 

[Joffey]

It'll come down to the politics of the situation and now it's in the public domain I don't think it looks good for him. The UCI will want to put daylight between themselves and Sky following Cookson's departure, particularly with the press that Sky have been attracting for some time.

ASO want a TdF winner not named Froome and RCS have got to be a bit narked too.

Braifords's language in his statement is interesting too, the emphasis being on 'chris' as an individual not on the team. I wonder if that's a bit of revenge for Froome's reluctance to back him publicly previously.

All that said this is the UCI, so you never know

The separation from Team Sky and referring to Chris shouldn't be made too much of - if his positives are not explained and he isn't exonerated he WILL be getting the sack. Every team seems to speak like this at the time of a positive test.

What it means for Sky going forward is pretty interesting. IF Froome is found guilty and banned he will have to be sacked. That will leave Sky with Thomas to ride a GT or two possibly but I can't see them winning any, or even getting on the podium. The Sky brand will have suffered a lot of damage in this whole process... Might it lead to the end of the team?

I bet they wish they had kept hold of Landa now...

 

[hoopdriver]

I suspect Sky's lofty morals will be found to be elastic enough to accommodate a ban for Froome and still keep him on the payroll...

 

[Adam4868]

They have had enough bad press to sink another team,is Moscon not still being investigated for racist remarks ? Personally I don't think Froome will be banned,maybe wishful thinking on my behalf.I hope

 

[Siclo]

The Sky brand will have suffered a lot of damage in this whole process... Might it lead to the end of the team?

The sale of 21st Century Fox to Disney might well have an impact there but I don't know enough about the tangled web of Sky/Fox/Team Sky/Sky Italia etc ownership to really know just who owns what.

Can't see Disney wanting to be associated with a cycling team that keeps getting itself embroiled in drug controversies.

 

[mjr]

As knowledgable about the history of the sport as Cillion is he is the biggest Sky-hater on Twitter and will be delighted with this news (despite saying he isn't).

I had to unfollow him, it's like Sky did something to him. Maybe they didn't send him a free book.

Sky's media management did seem to go a bit (US) Postal last year (only a press conference on one rest day and no interviews, wasn't it?), which might be rebounding on them now.

 

[hoopdriver]

Depends on how they spin it - they also keep winning the Tour de France....