My first aid certificates have long expired, and I was a qualified Combat Medic in the military. I don't bother carrying plasters. Offs tend to result in grazes where a dry dressing and a bit of micropore would be more appropriate than elastoplast. All I carry are two triangular bandages and a mouth guard in case I ever use mouth to mouth.
First Aid
- Thread starter Mr Haematocrit
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I don't have any first aid certificates but I am an NHS Paramedic. In an emergency I would improvise with what I am wearing, if necessary, and if the incident was serious enough I would call for an emergency response and stabilise the patient until arrival of the ambulance crew.
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
faceshield. goes everywhere with me. ask to see inside the rucksack/panniers if you ever meet me. everything else is dealable with, with what i have on me or the bike.
Three problems...
Firstly the point about sharps in the pockets - avoid at all costs
Secondly this is cycling, and on the road there is an unwritten rule that the tool you need will be missing, this is also true for first aid kits
Finally in most cases all first aid involves is holding someone's hand, talking and reassuring until the professionals get there
The last twice, I have just got on with it and then thought about the faceshield afterwards!
Night Train
Maker of Things
- Location
- Greater Manchester
I have always managed with a Leatherman tool and electrical insulation tape. Anything more and it will more a case of stem blood flow, keep still and call for an ambulance.
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
the only time i ever had to do it i wished i had a faceshield.
wealthysoup
Active Member
- Location
- Belfast
Stupid question, but what is a face shield? I'm guessing it's used during cpr? All of the people carrying electrical tape, if your using it make sure you don't get it on broken skin. Did a 100 mile walk in 4 days a few years ago and 1 of the guys I met used electrical tape to sort out blisters and rubs on his feet... Didn't work too well when it got infected and he couldn't get the tape off
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
http://www.laerdal.com/gb/doc/115/Laerdal-Face-Shield
or what lives in my bag http://www.laerdal.com/gb/item/83001133 being a diver i want the o2 connection as o2 is never going to make a diver on the surface any worse than they are. giving o2 to non diving casualties can be risky as there are some conditions where o2 can aggravate the situation, they are contraindicators to diving though so i can administer to a diver.
I will also administer o2 to my kids and wife if needed.
or what lives in my bag http://www.laerdal.com/gb/item/83001133 being a diver i want the o2 connection as o2 is never going to make a diver on the surface any worse than they are. giving o2 to non diving casualties can be risky as there are some conditions where o2 can aggravate the situation, they are contraindicators to diving though so i can administer to a diver.
I will also administer o2 to my kids and wife if needed.
[Did a 100 mile walk in 4 days a few years ago and 1 of the guys I met used electrical tape to sort out blisters and rubs on his feet... Didn't work too well when it got infected and he couldn't get the tape off[/quote]
wasn,t nijmegan was it? - I did that (many many years ago) and a canadian medic put tape directly over my blisters - you can guess the effect when the next day a medic ripped off the plaster.
I used to wash my feet in surgical spirit each night - stung a bit - but stopped infections
Water - always carry water - in conjunction to your first aid kit - its needed for washing the wound and helping with shock - I carry a little bottle just for that not for drinking, anticeptic wipes are good for cleanng up scrapes being the commonist form of injury.
A bit of rubber tubing is useful for a restrictive bandage-(tournacay) for really bad injurys - charged mobile phone an absolute must.
Paracetomol , ibuprofin and a mars-bar are the only drugs i carry.
you can get quite neat little packs you can fix to the bike frame (mines tucked behind my seat)
wasn,t nijmegan was it? - I did that (many many years ago) and a canadian medic put tape directly over my blisters - you can guess the effect when the next day a medic ripped off the plaster.
I used to wash my feet in surgical spirit each night - stung a bit - but stopped infections
Water - always carry water - in conjunction to your first aid kit - its needed for washing the wound and helping with shock - I carry a little bottle just for that not for drinking, anticeptic wipes are good for cleanng up scrapes being the commonist form of injury.
A bit of rubber tubing is useful for a restrictive bandage-(tournacay) for really bad injurys - charged mobile phone an absolute must.
Paracetomol , ibuprofin and a mars-bar are the only drugs i carry.
you can get quite neat little packs you can fix to the bike frame (mines tucked behind my seat)
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
First Aid packs on bikes is for girls. Man up !
+2
I was a 1st aid instructor in the Fire Service and the main purpose of a 1st aid kit is to act as a catalyst to initiate action. There's very little in it that can't be improvised from clothing and other bits and bobs lying around. If someone's been injured in an RTA a non-sterile bandage infecting a wound is the least of their worries.
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
I carry a basic first aid kit for self treatment, but wouldn't ignore soneone collapsed in the street.
Rubber gloves and face shields a must as hepatitis is do incredibly infectious (it can remain active in dried fluids outside the body for up to 3 months.
But still and all I'd be phoning three nines and getting the ambo boys rolling at the earliest opportunity.
Basic bandages, plasters, safety clips, face mask, gloves, all wrapped up tight in a pouch smaller than most underseat packs. It's good insurance, as Sod's law says the day I don't carry it us the say I come off and take a foot if bacon off be legs.
Rubber gloves and face shields a must as hepatitis is do incredibly infectious (it can remain active in dried fluids outside the body for up to 3 months.
But still and all I'd be phoning three nines and getting the ambo boys rolling at the earliest opportunity.
Basic bandages, plasters, safety clips, face mask, gloves, all wrapped up tight in a pouch smaller than most underseat packs. It's good insurance, as Sod's law says the day I don't carry it us the say I come off and take a foot if bacon off be legs.
Grizzly
Well-Known Member
- Location
- East Kilbride
I'm sorry but posts like this are not helpful, this is not a diving forum and will only cause confusion with other people reading it.
Firstly, it is perfectly acceptable to do compression only CPR. The reason compression only CPR is encouraged is that evidence shows that lay persons can not open an airway, so any attempt at ventilation is almost always unsuccessful and infact it is time off the chest which is linked to poor outcomes. So why carry a face-shield?
Secondly, nobody carries O2 when out cycling, and as the other posts are mostly about traumatic injuries (and you will know that the British Thoracic Society guidelines on O2 therapy says to give O2 in traumatic injuries) in these cases it wouldn't be withheld.
Please stay on topic, it prevents us from digging a hole for ourselves. I envy your diving, its something I'd love to do but please remember that diving first aid training is specialised for a good reason. The problems with blood gasses are pretty unique to that activity and may not transfer across to other fields.
mrandmrspoves
Middle aged bald git.
- Location
- Narfuk
Firstly, it is perfectly acceptable to do compression only CPR. The reason compression only CPR is encouraged is that evidence shows that lay persons can not open an airway
The main reasons that the current resuscitation guidelines advise lay people to do compression only resuscitation is that so many people are unwilling to consider attempting mouth to mouth and although this is more likely to have a good outcome than compression only - doing nothing is definitely less effective than starting chest compressions.
I guess that if you are only giving chest compressions - this should be re-named CR as you are not doing the P bit.
As a nurse, I am trained to administer CPR so always carry a face shield. I have administered mouth to mouth without a mask in the past (successfully) hence why I now carry a mask.
I carry a reasonable equipped first aid kit - including plasters, bandages, Triangular sling bandage, gauze, anti septic wipes, plasters, safety pins, A cool pack, a survival blanket, anti histamine tabs and a Salbutamol Inhaler. Latex free gloves and a couple of polythene bags are also always included .
Likewise I carry a fairly extensive tool kit...
You never know when you will need it or have the opportunity to help someone else who needs it.
The main reasons that the current resuscitation guidelines advise lay people to do compression only resuscitation is that so many people are unwilling to consider attempting mouth to mouth and although this is more likely to have a good outcome than compression only - doing nothing is definitely less effective than starting chest compressions.
I guess that if you are only giving chest compressions - this should be re-named CR as you are not doing the P bit.
As a nurse, I am trained to administer CPR so always carry a face shield. I have administered mouth to mouth without a mask in the past (successfully) hence why I now carry a mask.
I carry a reasonable equipped first aid kit - including plasters, bandages, Triangular sling bandage, gauze, anti septic wipes, plasters, safety pins, A cool pack, a survival blanket, anti histamine tabs and a Salbutamol Inhaler. Latex free gloves and a couple of polythene bags are also always included .
Likewise I carry a fairly extensive tool kit...
You never know when you will need it or have the opportunity to help someone else who needs it.
jazzkat
Fixed wheel fanatic.
- Location
- The Cumbrian Riviera
I'm just recovering from quite a big off at the weekend. I'm going to get one of those silver blanket thingy's. I got very cold waiting for a car to take my battered body to hospital. Had it been more serious than the broken collar bone I've got then it could have been quite bad getting colder and colder.
