EV Owners Thread
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Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
I agree with the point about making all manufacturers have a standard location for the charging point.
My car has it rear right, which is totally opposite to the Tesla which is rear left. So I can’t use their short cables.
To be fair, the Tesla Supercharging network was developed by Tesla for Tesla and to be used with Tesla cars. It was one of the key drivers that made tesla so desirable. Large banks of chargers in premium locations with free charging. Once sales took off, the free lifetime charging was removed. Now they are at the next step which is to allow non-Teslas to use their network, it just requires some longer cables, or switching to / adding socket only connections.
A little bit of conformity like rear left or front right would make design costs cheaper on the charge network. I like the adoption of non Tesla vehicles monitoring to update the free unused stall data when approaching charge points on journeys.
Tesla are also proactive in reducing vehicles maximum charge level if the bank of chargers are very busy., increasing through put of vehicles
Tesla are also proactive in reducing vehicles maximum charge level if the bank of chargers are very busy., increasing through put of vehicles
Jameshow
Veteran
Of that happens I reckon Starmer's sunk....
figbat
Slippery scientist
- Location
- South Oxfordshire, UK
For some EVs the charge port location will be determined by where the fuel filler is/was in the ICE variant they were derived from. It is unlikely that an OEM will retool for their whole range of cars just so people can charge easier at a Tesla site.
It's different for EVs even if they are ICE derived. It's a internal routed cable not a long filler neck for fuel.
They can fit them pretty much anywhere with a panel change.
The intransigence of the legacy car makers is why they are struggling against neo EV makers
They can fit them pretty much anywhere with a panel change.
The intransigence of the legacy car makers is why they are struggling against neo EV makers
figbat
Slippery scientist
- Location
- South Oxfordshire, UK
And that's my point. The same panel will be used across the range of vehicles, perhaps with small mods. To relocate the charge point to a different panel will mean pressing a completely different panel for the EV compared to others in the range.
Well, some lessons in charging here.
Monday, heading down to The Manor Hotel for some R&R, we stopped and charged at Gloucester Services (same folk who own the marvellous Tebay).
Perhaps the best chargepoints we have used in over 50k miles (* note we do the majority of our charging at home though 😉). Super easy to start.
Coming back today, we thought we would stop at Sainsbury’s Exeter. 12 new “SmartChargeEV” chargers.
Ought to work a treat, right?
A spot of lunch would give us enough charge for our onward journey👍
Well….the first one refused to take my Apple pay RFID card, and my wife’s physical card.
Great 🙄
Moved to another unit where it started up okay.
Went instore, only to find the cafe permanently closed 🙄
Okay, get a meal deal and sit in the car.
As we paid, we see on the remote app that the car had got just 3.59kWh then ended.
FML.
Decided to give up on them and head to a nearby Tesla place that had lots of chargers.
Told the app which bay we were in, plugged in and immediately ramped up.
Lovely inside the “showroom” - zero pressure, free coffee and toilets.
Had lengthy chat with a service guy there and another customer before leaving.
Why is it that other companies cannot give such a simple experience.
The service guy suggested that it might be because the Tesla super chargers report their status to Tesla, so if there are any issues, an engineer will already be on the way: with others, it will be down to people to tell the company their “pump” is broken.
Either way, it was a salutary lesson learned.
Monday, heading down to The Manor Hotel for some R&R, we stopped and charged at Gloucester Services (same folk who own the marvellous Tebay).
Perhaps the best chargepoints we have used in over 50k miles (* note we do the majority of our charging at home though 😉). Super easy to start.
Coming back today, we thought we would stop at Sainsbury’s Exeter. 12 new “SmartChargeEV” chargers.
Ought to work a treat, right?
A spot of lunch would give us enough charge for our onward journey👍
Well….the first one refused to take my Apple pay RFID card, and my wife’s physical card.
Great 🙄
Moved to another unit where it started up okay.
Went instore, only to find the cafe permanently closed 🙄
Okay, get a meal deal and sit in the car.
As we paid, we see on the remote app that the car had got just 3.59kWh then ended.
FML.
Decided to give up on them and head to a nearby Tesla place that had lots of chargers.
Told the app which bay we were in, plugged in and immediately ramped up.
Lovely inside the “showroom” - zero pressure, free coffee and toilets.
Had lengthy chat with a service guy there and another customer before leaving.
Why is it that other companies cannot give such a simple experience.
The service guy suggested that it might be because the Tesla super chargers report their status to Tesla, so if there are any issues, an engineer will already be on the way: with others, it will be down to people to tell the company their “pump” is broken.
Either way, it was a salutary lesson learned.
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
Starmer didn’t bring in the Ev targets. What’s it got to do with him.
Jameshow
Veteran
He brought in ending ice manufacturing
earlier from Europe.... Which will cause manufacturers to close uk factories..
BrumJim
Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
- Location
- Selly Oak, Birmingham
That's worldwide. I'm not calling for Starmer's demise if the job losses are in Japan.
