Jameshow
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Your milk float?!!
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Your milk float?!!
Not far off, we have a little utilitarian EV for transporting bits n bobs around the farm. I fitted it out with a 3kW invertor for running mains power tools for remote areas Son and I fitted some fence rails on other side of farm, took the Dewalt chop saw to do all the big cuts. lobbed half a dozen 4.8m lengths of timber on the roof. Made an hour+ job into 20 mins with electric tools.
Jameshow
Veteran
Come on show us the design is it road legal?
Would love a little ev car. Did see a scimitar without an engine that looked idea for EV conversion..
It is road legal, but currently sorned, we only use it on the farm property
link to our vehicle-newer ones are better still with lithium battery packs as an option, variety of specifications. Ours is open bed with high cage, I believe it was originally bought by a borough council to collect refuse on a private complex in the early hours, being electric it was quiet, little disturbance.
https://www.alke.com/electric-pickup
Gillstay
Veteran
Where's the hydrogen? From what I can see it's a concept hydrogen fuel cell car with no indication of where the hydrogen will come from.
They are developing a hydrogen powered car that you can re-fuel from any hydrogen station in the country.
That includes all 7 of them: Swindon, Birmingham, London, Rotherham, Port Talbot or the two in Aberdeen.
Of course, those seven stations only have to service a maximum of 300 cars, well less as quite a few of those 300 are busses.
Let's contrast that with the 8,353 operational petrol stations which serve 150 cars per day. Of course that's down quite a bit from the 37,539 stations in 1970, of which 36% have closed since 2000. Out of 30 million ICE cars in the UK only 1.25 million access a petrol pump on any given day.
And then lets contrast that with the 70,000 public EV chargers in the UK and the over 860,000 home EV chargers for the 1.1 million EVs on the road.
Now - guess which technology is increasing the number or refuelling points? Go on!
Yep. EVs. The number of ultra-rapid chargers has increased year on year for 4 years.
PS - you can charge an EV anywhere that you can put a plug in a wall if you are desperate. Charging will be very slow - but you will charge.
Hydrogen has missed the boat re adoption. Battery technology has been adopted as the next generation of energy storage.
Electricity is available just about anywhere, making it super convenient to have an electric car.
Maybe one day someone will discover the secret to unlocking hydrogen extraction quickly, safely and cheap. Most projects can only ever achieve two of the three steps
Electricity is available just about anywhere, making it super convenient to have an electric car.
Maybe one day someone will discover the secret to unlocking hydrogen extraction quickly, safely and cheap. Most projects can only ever achieve two of the three steps
I don't doubt it, but it isn't currently, batteries are
figbat
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Strictly speaking, batteries aren’t fuel (well, until thermal runaway). Hydrogen is essentially an energy storage medium too, rather than a primary fuel source.
albion
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Hydrogen is an essential in the move away from fossils.
Batteries are only very short term storage.
Batteries are only very short term storage.
Not when most of the 90+% hydrogen is formed by steam methane reforming or coal. Currently to get hydrogen by green methods of electrolysis, then electrical energy required makes it completely financially unviable
Globally, 76 percent of hydrogen is produced from natural gas by SMR, with 22 percent produced through coal gasification and 2 percent from electrolysis. Hydrogen produced from uncontrolled fossil fuels is referred to as “grey” hydrogen.17 Jun 2021
figbat
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Hydrogen is an energy transfer and storage medium just like a battery is. The huge problem with hydrogen is that the universe is working against you. The reason why there is so much water on Earth is that the water molecule is so energetically stable. Hydrogen on Earth does not exist in its elemental form, it is trapped within various other compounds (like water and hydrocarbons) but the energy needed to get the hydrogen out of those compounds is huge, and there is no way to overcome this. Therefore you need a lot of input energy to get at the hydrogen, which you then chill, compress and distribute in a challenging supply chain to finally be used in fuel cells that generate electricity. Why not just use the electricity directly, rather than suffer losses throughout the hydrogen supply chain?
albion
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https://www.rystadenergy.com/news/china-hydrogen-targets
'China is targeting green hydrogen production of 200,000 tpa by the end of 2025, but our analysis shows it will exceed that volume by the end of this year. '
But !
https://www.euractiv.com/section/en...-china-dilemma-amid-flagging-hydrogen-dreams/
'China is targeting green hydrogen production of 200,000 tpa by the end of 2025, but our analysis shows it will exceed that volume by the end of this year. '
But !
https://www.euractiv.com/section/en...-china-dilemma-amid-flagging-hydrogen-dreams/
