roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Lol. Not a criticism, but I'd be about as excited as if I was getting a new boiler (and one that was fed on £10 notes, to boot!)
Now, if I was getting a new bicycle...
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Lol. Not a criticism, but I'd be about as excited as if I was getting a new boiler (and one that was fed on £10 notes, to boot!)
Now, if I was getting a new bicycle...
Then I think you misunderstand how inexpensive it is to run an EV compared to a combustion engine car. TBH if I was getting a new boiler that only cost me £20 a week in energy tops, I'd be pretty excited.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
I think the depreciation on any new car regardless of drivetrain is huge.
Your boiler excitement leaves me cold (see what I did there?)!
But as I said, the original comment wasn't intended as a criticism, just reflecting on the diversity of us human beans. Me - I get excited at the prospect of a map being delivered, which I'm sure is atypical!
gbb
Squire
- Location
- Peterborough
I mused in an earlier post about getting a Zoe for commuting only. 15 miles each way , I can't charge at home so would be reliant on the works chargers. They're very affordable and I suspect thats because of the depreciation, possibly mainly driven by battery degradation. I can't remember the battery (original) capacities but many were quoting 30 to 50 remaining mile range...which would mean I'd almost certainly have to charge every day. Add to that further degradation and in maybe not so many years...you have a car with no achievable mileage and no value at all.
I'd genuinely have one, the propulsion method doesn't matter per se, it'd be cheaper in the short run..but I suspect dearer in the long run. But as with millions of people, the practicability of charging just won't work.
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
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Just found this on another forum - no a popular one so I won't mention it - but it was posted by a contributor that normally posts sensible stuff
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It's the whole car insurance market not just EVs bit EVs are taking the brunt of the blame as its an easy newspaper headline.
I know why - my mate works in a body shop that only deals with insurance, all the big players and manufacturer certified and EV certified.
The amount of money wasted on the whole insurance saga per car is unbelievable. Many claims seem to cost more than the car is valued at and due to shortages of parts/electronics/etc can go on for many months all the while with a courtesy car, car storage charges, etc, etc all piling up. Simple jobs that could be a 5 minute fill and spray are defaulted to entire new panels with a 3 month wait and courtesy car at massive cost.
Eveyone is making their killing in their bit of insurance dealings, the only people losing out are the poor sods that actually pay for it in the end - US LOT
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It's the whole car insurance market not just EVs bit EVs are taking the brunt of the blame as its an easy newspaper headline.
I know why - my mate works in a body shop that only deals with insurance, all the big players and manufacturer certified and EV certified.
The amount of money wasted on the whole insurance saga per car is unbelievable. Many claims seem to cost more than the car is valued at and due to shortages of parts/electronics/etc can go on for many months all the while with a courtesy car, car storage charges, etc, etc all piling up. Simple jobs that could be a 5 minute fill and spray are defaulted to entire new panels with a 3 month wait and courtesy car at massive cost.
Eveyone is making their killing in their bit of insurance dealings, the only people losing out are the poor sods that actually pay for it in the end - US LOT
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classic33
Leg End Member
In North America only from that piece.
That's why it's called NACS.
It's actually a practical standard with high power and small form factor.
The help standardise, would be best.
classic33
Leg End Member
So one plug & socket for North America and and another for this side of the Atlantic is standardising!
Tesla offered it to the EU, but they wanted to continue to use CCS.
Only time will tell if NACS becomes the international standard.
Seen as virtually all makers are clamouring to get onto Tesla's supercharger network. I reckon Tesla will convince EU brands to adopt NACS
Only time will tell if NACS becomes the international standard.
Seen as virtually all makers are clamouring to get onto Tesla's supercharger network. I reckon Tesla will convince EU brands to adopt NACS
BrumJim
Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
- Location
- Selly Oak, Birmingham
That is the one thing that scares me about electric cars. That in 5 years time the only place I will be able to recharge it is at home.
Of course we had multiple socket options for mobile phones and computers, until it all finally settled on USB. Then USB micro. Then USB-C....
BrumJim
Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
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- Selly Oak, Birmingham
There was the news recently about Zoe's NCAP rating being zero stars? That would have hit residuals badly. Renault have had a recent reputation for being top of the pile for NCAP ratings, and it almost became a given that your Renault would be better in an accident than any other car. Now it appears to be the opposite.
OK, there is a complex issue with electronic aids, etc. It isn't all about (or even largely about) how it crumples in an accident, but nevertheless, still a negative impact on desirability.
classic33
Leg End Member
This case appears to have been what started it.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla...-advertising-claim-out-of-court.765918.0.html
Selling something that didn't exist, and still didn't exist when settlement was reached.
