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icowden

icowden

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Surrey
I suppose this is where your traditional car manufacturers have a slightly upper hand , they have been building cars for decades.
Absolutely. Tesla's revolutionary approach unfortunately hits the owner a bit in the pocket.
  • £310 - Renault Grand Scenic
  • £530 - ID4
  • £820 - Tesla Y
Relative insurance cost based on my circumstances and long no claims bonus.
 

MrGrumpy

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Fly Fifer
Absolutely. Tesla's revolutionary approach unfortunately hits the owner a bit in the pocket.
  • £310 - Renault Grand Scenic
  • £530 - ID4
  • £820 - Tesla Y
Relative insurance cost based on my circumstances and long no claims bonus.

Think this is where my Bro Law was coming from , he needs a bigger car and the Model S does not cut it now ! Insurance is going silly , also has a door to fix on it but is thinking about just chopping it in with the mark and taking the hit !
We might be heading into a new world with high insurance premiums on leccy cars !
 
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icowden

icowden

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Think this is where my Bro Law was coming from , he needs a bigger car and the Model S does not cut it now ! Insurance is going silly , also has a door to fix on it but is thinking about just chopping it in with the mark and taking the hit !
We might be heading into a new world with high insurance premiums on leccy cars !
Bear in mind that the ID4 (to my mind) is comparable given that the Scenic is a £15k car and the ID4 a 50k car. But yes, Tesla do have a bit of an insurance issue. Hence my company withdrew them from the company car scheme. I'm still hoping that they will come back, but I can't see it at the moment.

As prices drop, insurance costs should also reduce. There will also be changes once companies like Thatcham get used to high tech security, and the effects of high level AI or software based control start to be seen (i.e. collision avoidance, lane keeping, Advanced Cruise Control etc).
 

SpokeyDokey

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Absolutely. Tesla's revolutionary approach unfortunately hits the owner a bit in the pocket.
  • £310 - Renault Grand Scenic
  • £530 - ID4
  • £820 - Tesla Y
Relative insurance cost based on my circumstances and long no claims bonus.

The hidden costs of EV's.

I admit to not being fully up to speed on costs of EV ownership.

I wouldn't be keen on paying that amount of money for insurance - paid much cheaper for E-Class and 5 Series.

Are there any compensating upsides?
 

Gunk

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Oxford
The hidden costs of EV's.

I admit to not being fully up to speed on costs of EV ownership.

I wouldn't be keen on paying that amount of money for insurance - paid much cheaper for E-Class and 5 Series.

Are there any compensating upsides?

My 2017 BMW 330d touring is only around £400 a year.
 
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icowden

icowden

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I wouldn't be keen on paying that amount of money for insurance - paid much cheaper for E-Class and 5 Series.
Are there any compensating upsides?
Tonnes. Fuelling my car has gone from around £2,600 per year to about £300 per year. I no longer burn Diesel when stuck in traffic, the car is a joy to drive, technologically far more advanced and far more comfortable. I don't have to pay ULEZ or Congestion Charge, I quite often get a bespoke parking spot in busy car parks as long as I plug in to charge.
 

CXRAndy

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Lincs
This is going the way of the other EV thread. Why does everyone focus onTesla in these discussions?

Probably because they are leading the way, by far the most popular EV on sale, the standard by which all other EVs are currently ranked against.
 

MrGrumpy

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Fly Fifer
This is going the way of the other EV thread. Why does everyone focus onTesla in these discussions?

Because it would seem if you own one , you have made it ! You have reached peak car ownership ! Legendary status ! :whistle: It’s the ultimate status symbol .

Guy at work has just bought a second hand one , he was congratulated in the works car park :laugh: on his purchase by some staff members ! I kid you not !
 

CXRAndy

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Lincs
If you want a free charge and are passing a Tesla supercharger :okay:

Tesla is today allowing electric car drivers in the UK to charge for free to mark the 10th anniversary of its Supercharger network in Europe.

Open to owners of all EVs and not just Teslas, the firm's Supercharger devices will be free to use from 08:00 to 23:59 BST on Tuesday 29 August. The last charging sessions must begin by 22:59 at the latest
 

mikeIow

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Leicester
Tonnes. Fuelling my car has gone from around £2,600 per year to about £300 per year. I no longer burn Diesel when stuck in traffic, the car is a joy to drive, technologically far more advanced and far more comfortable. I don't have to pay ULEZ or Congestion Charge, I quite often get a bespoke parking spot in busy car parks as long as I plug in to charge.

100% this.

Just had a long weekend supervising 2 x Gold DofE teams in the Peak District....a new PB for regen, over 3 miles down the road from the Mam Tor turn to Edale 💪 :laugh:
We've got the luxury of doing almost all our charging at home (Kona EV, over 200 mile range in winter to over 250 in summer). That can make a BIG difference to the numbers.....

Our energy was 7.5p/kWh, now 12p - if we said we averaged 10p over the 45k miles we have done, and average a pessimistic 3.5miles/kWh - that is around 12,900kWh, or around £1,300.
Of course, if we had to pay full public charge prices, that could go up 4-5x....makes a massive difference - if you have to full up at a motorway station, your electricity costs might be similar to fossil fuel prices....

45k miles in my Volvo XC60, averaging 35mpg, gives around 1,290 gallons of diesel. Say a generous average of £1.40 per litre - that is around £6.30 per gallon - that is around £8,200. Or (similarly), a lot more at motorway prices.

£6,900 more over the 4 years we have had it.
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Of course it isn't the whole story - I would say the EV was perhaps £10k more than an equivalent ICE vehicle, although the quality difference against the petrol Kona was night & day when we bought it.

Biggest difference we notice in Sparky is how it feels much more spritely, & much more like you are 'driving the future'. The Volvo is super comfortable (legendary seats), also have bells and whistles like adaptive cruise and 8-spd auto, & much more space inside, but the Kona is our go-to if we don't need the greater capacity of the Volvo.
 
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